Saturday, February 28, 2015
La Sombra del Pasado #9 2/27/15 Candy's Very Busy Day!
Cristobal smiles gently, remembering the waterfall kiss he shared with Aldonza. “For one kiss from you I would break both legs.” He closes his eyes and leans against the headboard.
That same night Prudencia roughly awakens Valeria
with news of Cristobal’s accident.
Humberto was called urgently to Las Animas to attend him. According to Prudencia Cristobal got burned
because he was over at Las Animas trying Aldonza’s forbidden fruit!
At the same time Aldonza is pressing Adelina for information
on what the real problem is between their and Cristobal’s families. Aldonza says she and Cristobal are not to
blame for the hatred between their families.
Adelina insists she has told Aldonza what the issue is. No! All she has done is tell her half-truths. Adelina cannot meet Aldonza’s gaze. “You and mama have no right to keep Cristobal
and I apart for no good reason! It’s
torture! Adelina and Aldonza
embrace. A smile dawns on Aldonza’s face
as she, no doubt, remembers the waterfall kiss as well.
The next morning over breakfast Humberto remembers to tell
Prudencia that Candela suggested Valeria visit sometimes. Prudencia bolts from the table and runs
upstairs yelling for Valeria to jump in the shower! Humberto looks after her wondering what the
hurry is.
Cristobal and Aldonza are the topic of conversation at the
Mendoza breakfast table: neither likes
that Cris is taking up with that little slut.
Sever doesn’t know what to do about it but Candela has an idea: they’ll all go to Spain. She feels brilliant! Severiano is not as enthused.
Meanwhile Padre Jeronimo is sharing coffee with Adelina and
Roberta. They briefly discuss the fire
in the huerto and that Cris and Aldonza were together. The main reason he came is to tell them he
was able to get an extension from the bank but the deal was that she would
repay the debt with the earnings from the crop.
Who knows how much can be salvaged after the fire. Padre leaves the table to go see Aldonza.
Cris is peacefully asleep.
He stirs and is startled awake by
Valeria sitting right on his bed! She
offers to help him as he sits up. She feels responsible for what happened to
him. Why: Because he went to talk to Aldonza to clarify
the misunderstanding she provoked. She
didn’t mean to cause problems for him with his mom or that “pobre muchacha.” Amigos? She asks. They shake and Valeria kisses Cris on the
side of his face. An approving Candela pops in to tell Cris she’s going to church
and is leaving Valeria so he won’t be alone.
Vale promises not to leave until Candela returns.
Padre Jeronimo is at Aldonza’s bedside. He reassures her they will deal with the
money issue but what matters now is that she and Cristobal are ok. Aldonza beams that he should have seen how
Cris fought to put out the flames: as if
it were his own huerto! Padre didn’t
know she and Cris were such friends. Aldonza
knows he’s surprised because of how much her mother hates the Mendozas. Padre tells her he doesn’t know why the hate
exists. When he returned to Santa Lucia
the hate was fully entrenched. He doesn’t
know when it started and has tried unsuccessfully to find out. Her mother says it’s because of the dispute
over El Santuario but he’s not convinced.
Neither is Aldonza who is worried about the impact of this hatred on her
friendship with Cristobal. Unaware of
her deep feelings for Cristobal, Padre tells her all this will be resolved when
Cris leaves Santa Lucia. Aldonza is
surprised. How does Padre know
this? Cristobal, himself, told him he had
no intention of staying.
Our eyes now follow a row of involuntarily grilled melons
resting on the blackened ground until we encounter Joaquin and Roberta squatting
in the field. She thinks it’s strange
that this should happen just when things were getting better. Joaquin thanks God for the rain and that
Raimundo never had to see his huerta burned in this way. He makes an indelicate observation: It’s curious that Raimundo and his land both
ended up the same way. Roberta’s face is
pained, she looks lost. “Yes, very
curious.” Joaquin leaves, Roberta looks away, spots something on the ground and
picks it up. It’s a horseshoe! Pain turns to anger!
Dominga chats with Candela in her bedroom about Candela’s pushing
Valeria on Cristobal. Candela prefers a
thousand times over that Cristobal be with Valeria than the daughter of . . .
that woman. The ever frank and upfront
Dominga then adds, “God forbid that your son should have happen to him what
happened to you.” Candela denies knowing
what Dominga is talking about. “Ah, you
and I know very well that before Severiano there was another man in your life. A man who would have surely married you if he could.”
Candela accuses Dominga of trying to hurt her with these memories. No, Dominga only wants to remind Candela that
the heart has a will of its own. (El corazon
no se manda). Candela, now properly and
severely coiffed tells Dominga some days she just can’t stand her, and flounces
out of the room, annoyed!
Roberta goes to the Police to make a declaration about the
fire on her lands. Before she can speak
the official makes excuses about it being fire season. She knows the fire was set and she knows who
did it. She sarcastically says it was The Honorable
Severiano Mendoza as she whips out the horseshoe, waves it in the official’s
face and slaps it on the desk. It was in the ashes of her huerto. Stabbing the air with her finger for emphasis
Roberta declares she will not stop until he pays her everything he owes her and
goes to prison!
Severiano looks on with pride as his workers put his
beautiful horses through their paces. Melesio
remarks that there are ever more horses but less space. Sever thinks this problem will soon be
solved. The conversation almost feels as
if it is between equals until Sever asks for his horse. Well, the horse lost a shoe last night and it
will take a couple of days for a new one to be forged and sent. Sever calls him useless for not having any on
reserve as he has told him before and stalks off.
Back at the police station the official closes the
door. Roberta is holding forth, eyes
blazing: Severiano Mendoza burned her
land to trap her. He has been after her
land and threatened her that he would have it even if he had to sell his soul
to the devil. The Official rejects the
horseshoe as sufficient proof. Incensed,
Roberta opens the door and tells the official and several townsfolk there
taking care of business that she is going to show them who the Dueño of Las
Animas really is!
Candela has arrived at church. She has come to ask Padre Jeronimo
to hold a special mass of thanksgiving for the safe rescue of her son from the
fire. Padre is happy to: it’s a miracle that they both survived. Candela makes it clear that this mass is to
be only for her son, not for the Padre’s niece, Aldonza. If he wants, he can do a separate mass for
her, she does NOT want them mixed! This
reminds Padre of Aldonza asking him just this morning why there was so much
hate between the families. He invites
her to tell him once and for all why she hates Roberta and everything that has
anything to do with her. Candela tries to put it on Roberta’s lifestyle
and behavior. Padre thinks it’s more
than that. Ah! It’s not worth talking about. Padre hopes that one day she will open up
about what is behind all the hate that is surely eating at and hurting
her. It must be really grave that she
hasn’t even breathed a word of it in confession. Candela is offended: not even the years that they have known each
other gives him the right to this information.
He shouldn’t worry about her. Her
conscience is clear and peaceful. She
tells him to forget about the mass she asked for; she will pray the rosary by
herself at home. She sniffs and rises to
leave, turning smartly on her heel.
Padre calls to her as she leaves that the seven o’clock mass will be
held anyway, for Cristobal AND Aldonza.
Candela closes the door hard with a “humpf!”
Lola has come to pump information out of Aldonza who is
still in bed. After playfully withholding
the goods for a bit, she lets her friend know there’s a little something going
on but she mustn’t tell anyone! Lola has
leaped to imagining them married but Aldonza is sobered by the thought that
Cris will soon be going away. Well, that’s
what letters and the internet are for, chirps Lola. Lola remembers and tells Aldonza about
Valeria showing up bright and early at the house to “take care” of
Cristobal. The dreamy light in her eyes
is replaced by uncertainty.
These two kids are really taking it easy today after that
fiery kiss that the waterfall couldn’t even quench. Cristobal is still in bed and Vale is still on the bed. Cris calls “come in” to a knock on the door. It’s Emanuel whose face falls a little at the
sight of Valeria purposely ruffling, and then smoothing Cris’s hair. Cris greets him enthusiastically and says
everyone is exaggerating over his condition including this woman. Surprisingly Valeria decides to leave because
Emanuel is there. She kisses Cris on the
face and leaves. Emanuel stammers that
he came at a bad time. Cris says to hold
up and let him clarify this issue right now: He is NOT interested in the least in Valeria. He’s interested in. . .someone else and would
never put eyes on someone Emanuel is interested in. Emanuel apologizes. Cris asks if he’s had any luck finding a
job. No, not at all and he’s getting
desperate.
Candela has stopped by Humberto’s office and invites him,
Prudencia and Valeria to go Spain with her, Severiano and Cristobal. Humberto tells her he does not like how she
and Prudencia are trying to push Cris and Vale together; that should be their
business alone. Candela thinks they don’t
really know what they want and parents have to give the kids a little push.
Would he rather she marries someone like that stray (recogido) that lives in
his house or someone refined and educated like Cristobal? Humberto protests again that this is Valeria’s
decision. Ah, men, doesn’t he realize
that his daughter has already made her choice.
Candela will make the reservations and they will be her guests!
Valeria has arrived home where we find Prudencia, her loose
lips lubricated with liquor, on the phone spreading lies about the fire in the
huerto and about Aldonza and Cristobal. “Oh,
the whole place burned down, the fire lasted for HOURS and those two were nowhere
in sight! One can imagine what they were
doing: Cris IS a man after all and
Aldonza is surely as much of a slut as her mother!”
Valeria is peed off that Emanuel killed the magic between
her and Cristobal. She can’t stand
him! Why can’t he get lost! The two reveal what we knew, poor Emanuel is
not welcome in the household. Valeria
asks why does her dad protect him so; what kind of obligation does he have to
him and where did he even come from? Prudencia
says Humberto made a promise to Emanuel’s mother before she died to care for
him. Prudencia answers that she doesn’t
know who Emanuel’s mother is. In a
whispered, surprised tone Vale asks “What if Emmanuel is his son and he didn’t
have the nerve to tell us? That explains
it all!” Prudencia immediately starts
popping pills for her nerves. It’s all
Valeria’s fault! Surely used to such
outbursts, Valeria doesn’t respond but you can almost hear those gears
cranking.
Emmanuel helps Cris back to bed. Severiano enters the bedroom and silently
watches, regarding the scene, or rather Emanuel, coldly. Feeling the chill, Emmanuel freezes and then hurriedly
excuses himself and leaves. Cris tells
him he’s looking for work but Candela opposes it. Sev answers that she’s very selective about
who works here. Cristobal asks his dad to
please give Emanuel a chance. Emanuel is
good people. “Please. I want to help him. Do it for me.” Although reluctant, Severiano agrees.
Dominga scolds Lola (Delores) for being mia: she was at Aldonza’s. Lola lights up when she sees Emanuel. He greets Dominga and Lola is about to follow
him when Dominga stops her and warns her not to fix her eyes on him. Defeated for now, Lola heads back to Las
Animas.
Roberta tells her sister and Aldonza that she is certain
that Severiano provoked the fire. Aldonza wants to know what proof she has. Roberta says to trust her. From this day forward, their lives will
change. Adelina doesn’t look so
sure. No. She looks suspicious and worried.
Two men in black (suits) come to see Severiano. Roberta Lozada has accused him of starting
the fire on her lands. He dismisses it
as the most ridiculous thing he has ever heard in his life. Why would he do such a thing? They said because he has always wanted her
lands and to pressure her. He doesn’t
deny that he's wanted to buy her land. He reminds them she is crazy.
He appeals, with righteous indignation, to his reputation. They show him the horse shoe. He claims to have lost it before the
fire. His own son was endangered by the
fire. Would he put his own son’s life at
risk to try to get something that he doesn’t even need?
Properly ashamed for having doubted Severiano’s integrity
and character, they apologize. He thanks
them for doing their job. Poor woman,
she doesn’t realize who she’s lying on and she’s ungrateful: his people put out the fire! Oh well, she’s a sick person. They leave.
Severiano emerges as a noble victim and modest hero. Not impressed, Candela sweeps in and orders
him to the study to explain himself, right now!
Aldonza is confiding in Adelina that she is afraid; she has
a premonition that something bad is going to happen. Adelina asks if it’s that she’s afraid they
are going to lose everything or that they will have to leave Santa Lucia and
she won’t see Cristobal anymore. Both,
is Aldonza’s answer. Adelina hugs her.
Candela grills Severiano about the fire. He denies setting it proclaiming angrily that
he would NEVER endanger the life of his son!
She knows he didn’t know their son was at the scene of the fire. She promises she would have killed him with
her own hands had anything happened to her son.
He reminds her that Cristobal is his son, too and it is because of him
that he has put up with their farce of a marriage. In a kind of satanic renewal of vows she
delivers her parting shot: They will put
up with the farce until death separates them even if they have to keep living
in hell! She makes yet another stormy
exit.
Lo sits tailor style on Cris’s bed and tells him how worried
Aldonza is about him and how his leg is doing.
She tells him there is no way his mother is going to invite her over for
coffee. Cris asks Lola then to deliver a
letter to Aldonza just as Candela passes by the open door. She stops to listen.
Roberta returns to the police station and gets the bad news
that Severiano can explain the horseshoe and at any rate it is not sufficient
as evidence. She blasts the officer! Why does his word weigh more than hers!? She vows this is not the end of the
matter! The officer calls for
reinforcements. She’ll show them, they
will pay, the whole damned town will pay!
She storms away down the stairs, enraged but pretty in her turquoise
dress. She rubs her hurt ankle, looks
back up the stairs she just descended and calls them “boot lickers!”
Cris has finished his note and given it to Lola. He makes her promise to be discreet which
offends her a little but she recovers quickly because she thinks they’re a cute
couple and wants to see them together.
She is not to tell her mother, either.
Since he is immobilized they will have to handle things this way. Candela intercepts Lola and makes her give her
the letter and reads it:
“Aldonza, I
have something to tell you which I couldn’t tell you last night. Do you know what it is? That I’m falling in love with you and I like
it! I like it a lot.”
Candela rumples the letter and threatens Lola
that if she tells Cristobal or Aldonza about the letter she will fire her
grandparents. Lola stands up to her but
Dominga comes down the hall and takes the part of the patrona: Dominga will do as Candela asks and make sure
Lola knows her place in the Mendoza household.
Lola is forbidden from ever entering Cris’s room again and from now on Candela
will personally attend to her son!
Candela enters Cris’s room.
She wants to know where Vale is.
He doesn’t need her there, she was wasting her time. Candela lets that go for now, she’s got good
news. She and his dad decided that they’re
all going to Spain! Cris has changed his
mind. Candela tries every angle but the
matter is simple. If they want to go,
they can go alone. Reservations can be
cancelled and in terms of inviting Humberto, Prudencia and Valeria, she didn’t
ask him and he does not want to go on a trip with his godparents or Valeria
either. Cris doesn’t budge but Candela’s
face does. She is not used to NOT
getting her way.
Dominga chews Lola out about knowing the boundaries as the
granddaughter of “simple employees”: She
is not to be too familiar with Cris and she must do as her grandparents have
done; respect the Patrones, know your place, keep quiet and do as you’re told!
Now we are in the living room of Las Animas. Prudencia has come to call and has been
keeping the bar company. With a slur
(in more than one sense of the word) she gives Candela the 4-1-1 on the
fire: Aldonza enticed Cristobal to El
Santuario to relieve him of his virginity and so intent were they on the task
that the whole place was burning up around them and they didn’t even notice it! She’s only repeating what she heard and she’s
doing it out of the utmost concern for Candela whom she knows is SO concerned
about the reputation of her family. Candela’s face is nearly as red as her blouse:
Candela: You can tell
the gossips that my son would never lower his eyes to look at such a tramp.
Prudencia: Well his
eyes, no, but what about something else?
She lets loose with some other rich colloquialisms which I
frankly did not get. Candela decides she’s
had enough, takes Prudencia’s drink. . . twice, and sees her to the door. Prudencia bids her a lispy, tipsy farewell. Candela rolls her eyes, heaves a sigh and
marches out to talk to Severiano. She
tells Sev Cris doesn’t want to go to Spain now and its obvious what
happened. She shows Sev the note Cris
wrote. The whole town is saying he spent the night of the fire with that slut. Candela insists they do something, Severiano
says they can’t do anything. "Solve
it. Aren’t you the man of the
house? Talk to Roberta and offer her
money. Use your imagination. Do something, whatever comes to mind before
my son ends up going with that whore!"
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Hi Sombra Peeps! Well, we got some clues on Emmanuel for you to chew on! Candy sure is a control freak, isn't she? I, like Aldonza, have a bad premonition: Candy has sicced Sev on Roberta and Aldonza, that cannot be good!
A little more sedate of an episode but hopefully lots to discuss. Good night any early birds reading this, thank you in advance and see you in the morning!
A little more sedate of an episode but hopefully lots to discuss. Good night any early birds reading this, thank you in advance and see you in the morning!
Gracias Lila! Ah, this is the show that keeps on giving! Thank you for your wonderful recap :D
"trying Aldonza's forbidden fruit"...would those be the...melons?
"He stirs and is startled awake by Valeria sitting right on his bed!" That. Was TERRIFYING! Boundaries, Valeria, boundaries!
I was all kinds of excited about that horseshoe, and then the stupid impressionable cops completely dropped the ball! Especially after Melesio mentioned that those horseshoes have to be specially ordered--and is Sombra the only horse that has the special shoes? However, Roberta was all kinds of awesome with her freakout and her twirly skirt. I loves me some Roberta with eyes blazing!
In that conversation in Padre G's office, did Candela basically say that Roberta's a ho and Padre G agreed with her? So much for my theory that the good Padre wouldn't be listening to gossip.
That trip to Spain with the two families sounds like the ultimate travel hell. Prudencia would be trying all the local liquor. Humberto would just be bored/annoyed the whole time. Valeria would be hanging all over Pablo, who would be pining for Aldonza, and Candela would be fuming that none of it is working out the way she planned. Only Severiano would be having a good time, because he'd be watching everyone else suffer!
Speaking of Prudencia, is there a liquor bottle in town that's safe from her?! I'm starting to question whether she's been sober at ALL since the time jump. She does spin a good story, though...too bad we know every other word out of her mouth is a lie. I'm so glad that Prudencia and Valeria's penchant for making up stories reared up to bite them in the collective ass, wondering if maybe Emmanuel is Humberto's son. Serves them right!
"Satanic renewal of vows"--fabulous! And very fitting for that match made in hell!
I'm sorry about the intercepted letter, but I don't know if Cristobal-in-writing can hold a candle to Cristobal-in-the-flesh. It was sweet, but I'm ready for more steam on the screen!
"trying Aldonza's forbidden fruit"...would those be the...melons?
"He stirs and is startled awake by Valeria sitting right on his bed!" That. Was TERRIFYING! Boundaries, Valeria, boundaries!
I was all kinds of excited about that horseshoe, and then the stupid impressionable cops completely dropped the ball! Especially after Melesio mentioned that those horseshoes have to be specially ordered--and is Sombra the only horse that has the special shoes? However, Roberta was all kinds of awesome with her freakout and her twirly skirt. I loves me some Roberta with eyes blazing!
In that conversation in Padre G's office, did Candela basically say that Roberta's a ho and Padre G agreed with her? So much for my theory that the good Padre wouldn't be listening to gossip.
That trip to Spain with the two families sounds like the ultimate travel hell. Prudencia would be trying all the local liquor. Humberto would just be bored/annoyed the whole time. Valeria would be hanging all over Pablo, who would be pining for Aldonza, and Candela would be fuming that none of it is working out the way she planned. Only Severiano would be having a good time, because he'd be watching everyone else suffer!
Speaking of Prudencia, is there a liquor bottle in town that's safe from her?! I'm starting to question whether she's been sober at ALL since the time jump. She does spin a good story, though...too bad we know every other word out of her mouth is a lie. I'm so glad that Prudencia and Valeria's penchant for making up stories reared up to bite them in the collective ass, wondering if maybe Emmanuel is Humberto's son. Serves them right!
"Satanic renewal of vows"--fabulous! And very fitting for that match made in hell!
I'm sorry about the intercepted letter, but I don't know if Cristobal-in-writing can hold a candle to Cristobal-in-the-flesh. It was sweet, but I'm ready for more steam on the screen!
Just woke up and I'm fixing coffee. Can't wait to read this! The title is perfect. Cande was making all kinds of plans yesterday!
I had to stop reading to tell you I loved the line about "involuntarily grilled melons." LMAO
Then I got to "properly and severely coiffed"... I love your phrasing!
Then I got to "properly and severely coiffed"... I love your phrasing!
Oh and...
I conjecture that this man from Cande's past is Raymundo NOT Padre G.
It explains the hatred for Roberta (since really Cande hated her even before knowing about the affair.) And it explains Roberta's reputation AND it adds a new layer to the competing baptisms in episode 1.
I conjecture that this man from Cande's past is Raymundo NOT Padre G.
It explains the hatred for Roberta (since really Cande hated her even before knowing about the affair.) And it explains Roberta's reputation AND it adds a new layer to the competing baptisms in episode 1.
Yesss! And you quoted Pru's line about maybe laying something other than his eyes on Aldonza. It was my favorite line of the night!
*sigh* Now the weekend Sombra withdrawals begin.
*sigh* Now the weekend Sombra withdrawals begin.
Thank you, Lila. This was just great!
Well, our romance seems to be well launched and already being assaulted by sinister outside forces.
I wonder if they have crop insurance in Mexico like here in the U.S. If so, Roberta could recoup some of her losses.
Roberta needs to think outside the box. She is on the ground floor of a new food sensation - roasted watermelons.
Sever plays a great innocent man, mixing facts and made up things as he talks to the police. The cops kept the horseshoe so that will probably come back to bite him in the ass.
Also this classist stuff that allows him to get away with so much stuff annoys me, but I guess it will build up to some tipping point where it can't sustain itself, then Sever will be had for a multiplicity of sins.
David
Well, our romance seems to be well launched and already being assaulted by sinister outside forces.
I wonder if they have crop insurance in Mexico like here in the U.S. If so, Roberta could recoup some of her losses.
Roberta needs to think outside the box. She is on the ground floor of a new food sensation - roasted watermelons.
Sever plays a great innocent man, mixing facts and made up things as he talks to the police. The cops kept the horseshoe so that will probably come back to bite him in the ass.
Also this classist stuff that allows him to get away with so much stuff annoys me, but I guess it will build up to some tipping point where it can't sustain itself, then Sever will be had for a multiplicity of sins.
David
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: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 8:09:00 AM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 8:09:00 AM EST
Lila, thanks. I've only watched bits and pieces of this TN, but feel like I get all the characters with your recap. My fave: her loose lips lubricated with liquor - lol.
Emmanuel sounds intriguing. Alex Sirvent looks so young in this role.
Emmanuel sounds intriguing. Alex Sirvent looks so young in this role.
Lila- I couldn't resist reading your recap, even before watching the episode. I loved the recap, and am looking forward to watching even more now.
Niecie- I have been looking at Alex and wondering how he has managed to look younger than ever for this role. It's funny because in Amor Bravio he played mid-30s guy, among the friends of 30-somethings that included Lisett (Adelina) and Renee S. (Ray). Now he's playing a character in the younger generation who could be the kid of Lisett or Renee. I think it's something about the way Alex/Emmanuel carries himself, but he just looks so baby- faced too. I'm also wondering if they've given Pablo/Cris facial hair in this so that he can look the same age/slightly older than Alex who has quite a few years on him in real life.
Be back later when I've actually had the chance to watch. Looking forward to seeing Roberta on the war path.
Niecie- I have been looking at Alex and wondering how he has managed to look younger than ever for this role. It's funny because in Amor Bravio he played mid-30s guy, among the friends of 30-somethings that included Lisett (Adelina) and Renee S. (Ray). Now he's playing a character in the younger generation who could be the kid of Lisett or Renee. I think it's something about the way Alex/Emmanuel carries himself, but he just looks so baby- faced too. I'm also wondering if they've given Pablo/Cris facial hair in this so that he can look the same age/slightly older than Alex who has quite a few years on him in real life.
Be back later when I've actually had the chance to watch. Looking forward to seeing Roberta on the war path.
Good morning, peeps! Burned the midnight oil. Let me chew on some breakfast. In the meantime, y'all chew on the show and I'll be back!
:D
:D
Thanks, Lila, for that snappy recap.
Well, it seems that we have our theme for this novels..those melons.
Who knows what darkness lies in the hearts of man..the Sombra knows.
What is up with delusional Val ?Geez. ''I am so worried about your injury, so let me just crawl right into your bed.'' What? Personal space, girl.
Well, it is STILL cold here and another storm is predicted for Sunday, but Hub and I are off for drive and a concert.
Well, it seems that we have our theme for this novels..those melons.
Who knows what darkness lies in the hearts of man..the Sombra knows.
What is up with delusional Val ?Geez. ''I am so worried about your injury, so let me just crawl right into your bed.'' What? Personal space, girl.
Well, it is STILL cold here and another storm is predicted for Sunday, but Hub and I are off for drive and a concert.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:18:00 AM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:18:00 AM EST
Here's something I don't get- why do galans always allow such crossing of boundaries? Cristobal has made it clear to everyone that he's not interested in Val.
Why the heck doesn't he tell HER?
Why the heck doesn't he tell HER?
Wow, Diva! Thank you, honey! Are you in my time zone? You are the ultimate early bird I thanked above!
Yah, Robert was right when she called them boot lickers. Sev just rolled right over them, didn't he?
Yeah, Padre did kinda agree that Roberta was a ho.
That trip to Spain with the two families sounds like the ultimate travel hell. You said it and Cris knows it! Wasn't he so respectful the way he said it to his mom, though?
Oh, that Prudencia can sho' drank up some likker cain't she?
Thanks, Diva. Love your appreciative comments and look forward to more from you with all are Sombra peeps throughout the weekend!
Yah, Robert was right when she called them boot lickers. Sev just rolled right over them, didn't he?
Yeah, Padre did kinda agree that Roberta was a ho.
That trip to Spain with the two families sounds like the ultimate travel hell. You said it and Cris knows it! Wasn't he so respectful the way he said it to his mom, though?
Oh, that Prudencia can sho' drank up some likker cain't she?
Thanks, Diva. Love your appreciative comments and look forward to more from you with all are Sombra peeps throughout the weekend!
Sara, I agree with you that whoever is experiencing unwanted advances from someone should put their foot down and lay out the ground rules in very clear terms.
David
David
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:11:00 AM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:11:00 AM EST
Hey, Sara! Glad to to accompany you with your coffee. Girl you had all the shiny-smart melon comments yesterday and that screen shot of the line of burnt melons cracked me up!
Enjoy your observations, Sara. Sooo, you think the other man is Raimundo? Intteresting! Hadn't thought of that!! Ah, this ought to generate some great conversation. Making my way down comments, we'll see how it tallies up!
Sara, if it wasn't so late I would've spent more time trying to unravel Pru's colorful, liquor-lubricated speech. Oh well, I could still go back and try to decifer it. She is a trip!
Enjoy your observations, Sara. Sooo, you think the other man is Raimundo? Intteresting! Hadn't thought of that!! Ah, this ought to generate some great conversation. Making my way down comments, we'll see how it tallies up!
Sara, if it wasn't so late I would've spent more time trying to unravel Pru's colorful, liquor-lubricated speech. Oh well, I could still go back and try to decifer it. She is a trip!
Lila, Wow--great recap! Thank you so much. I love how you recappers can watch the same show as me and yet notice so many fine points that I miss.
I love that Cande was in scarlet last night and Roberta in black (a black cardigan). Hadn't caught Dominga's remark about the man from Cande's past...but too bad it isn't Padre G; that would give much more opportunity for ongoing conflict.
Actress that plays Valerie sure has a resemblance to Prudencia. Great casting.
Susanlynn: "The Shadow knows...bwahahahaha!"
J in Oregon
I love that Cande was in scarlet last night and Roberta in black (a black cardigan). Hadn't caught Dominga's remark about the man from Cande's past...but too bad it isn't Padre G; that would give much more opportunity for ongoing conflict.
Actress that plays Valerie sure has a resemblance to Prudencia. Great casting.
Susanlynn: "The Shadow knows...bwahahahaha!"
J in Oregon
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM EST
Hey, David! You are welcome. Crop insurance? Great point! She needs to consult with folks from your county about that and about how to make melonade from roasted melons!
Yes! on the horseshoe. I hope it DOES come back to KICK him in the ass!
Yes! on the horseshoe. I hope it DOES come back to KICK him in the ass!
Vivi! Wow! Thank you, Girl! You read it before watching it? That's some kind of honor! As my friends on the recap team have mentioned one has to adjust one's pen when a story is quality and actually makes sense so I appreciate your comment!
Yah, come on back! See ya later!
:D
Yah, come on back! See ya later!
:D
Heee Heeee! Thanks, Susanlynn! Yah, the melons: I'll never look at one the same anymore!
Enjoy your concert and be safe! They're downgrading the storm we're supposed to get. I go visit my Mom every Sunday and do NOT want to get on the road and get caught in their wrong forecast!
Enjoy your concert and be safe! They're downgrading the storm we're supposed to get. I go visit my Mom every Sunday and do NOT want to get on the road and get caught in their wrong forecast!
Sara, one of my biggest peeves is these galans that let these women invade their space, force kisses on them even drugging them and bedding them with or without selfies. Is it easier to do that than to write some spine into the guy? Sheesh!
Thank you J! So, you also doubt Candy's mystery man is Padre? I'm gonna give that some thought. I'm still leaning to Padre.
"Our eyes now follow a row of involuntarily grilled melons"
that's my girl, Lila
Well, even the FloomZoom at 6 flags takes a breather, so our show does too.
What is it with these TN's and shrewish mama's, and their 20 something baby boys, trying to protect them from some shameless hussy. I'm tired of it. I hope Christobal doesn't become stupid after giving me so much hope he isn't.
Roberta - Fools, it was him, his horse the only one in town that wears Air Jordans.
Horse - I need to learn how to tie my own shoes
Valeria - oh my, so that's morning Wood
Severiano - now boys, if it were me, Smokey the Bear would have fingered me already
Christobal - the NSA can't monitor hand written correspondence, can they?
Candela - forget the content of the letter, it's the hearts and smiley faces that piss me off
Emmanuel - desperate enough to scrape shit off of shoes?
Prudencia - wanna see my Jack Daniels tattoo
that's my girl, Lila
Well, even the FloomZoom at 6 flags takes a breather, so our show does too.
What is it with these TN's and shrewish mama's, and their 20 something baby boys, trying to protect them from some shameless hussy. I'm tired of it. I hope Christobal doesn't become stupid after giving me so much hope he isn't.
Roberta - Fools, it was him, his horse the only one in town that wears Air Jordans.
Horse - I need to learn how to tie my own shoes
Valeria - oh my, so that's morning Wood
Severiano - now boys, if it were me, Smokey the Bear would have fingered me already
Christobal - the NSA can't monitor hand written correspondence, can they?
Candela - forget the content of the letter, it's the hearts and smiley faces that piss me off
Emmanuel - desperate enough to scrape shit off of shoes?
Prudencia - wanna see my Jack Daniels tattoo
Lila: "When life hands you melons...make melon-ade!"
It might be more logical for Cande's mystery man to be Ray, that would explain her hatred of Roberta. But if it's Padre we would certainly have much more ongoing drama. Which of course is more fun!
J in Oregon
It might be more logical for Cande's mystery man to be Ray, that would explain her hatred of Roberta. But if it's Padre we would certainly have much more ongoing drama. Which of course is more fun!
J in Oregon
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 12:10:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 12:10:00 PM EST
David said:
"...whoever is experiencing unwanted advances from someone should put their foot down and lay out the ground rules in very clear terms."
Since you're male, I'm glad you said that David. So even as flattering as it is, males would want boundaries too. (Since I do not understand the male psyche lol.)
susanlynn-your "sombra knows" joke cracked me up!
"...whoever is experiencing unwanted advances from someone should put their foot down and lay out the ground rules in very clear terms."
Since you're male, I'm glad you said that David. So even as flattering as it is, males would want boundaries too. (Since I do not understand the male psyche lol.)
susanlynn-your "sombra knows" joke cracked me up!
If Padre were the mystery man, I think we'd get a lot of story out of it, but the conversations he's had with Cande so far have not even hinted a past amorous relationship.
Then again, he seemed just as lost as Aldonza and the rest of us as to why Cande hated Roberta.
Is he the older brother? How old was Ray when he left because Padre G seems to have NO CLUE about Santa Lucia. It's almost as if he didn't keep up with Ray at all. And he's been there about 20 years since he came back. I still can't believe that the feud between these two families is NOT on everyone's lips.
Then again, he seemed just as lost as Aldonza and the rest of us as to why Cande hated Roberta.
Is he the older brother? How old was Ray when he left because Padre G seems to have NO CLUE about Santa Lucia. It's almost as if he didn't keep up with Ray at all. And he's been there about 20 years since he came back. I still can't believe that the feud between these two families is NOT on everyone's lips.
Valeria - oh my, so that's morning Wood
Severiano - now boys, if it were me, Smokey the Bear would have fingered me already
Oh, tofie, I was about to copy the whole darned list. Girl, you are nuts! Love it!!
Severiano - now boys, if it were me, Smokey the Bear would have fingered me already
Oh, tofie, I was about to copy the whole darned list. Girl, you are nuts! Love it!!
Hey, J. This is going to be a fun one to figure out. That the mystery man is Ray does make sense. That would mean Roberta took TWO men from her! Guess I'd be pissed, too!
I guess there is always the chance that a character is introduced later, but for now I'm happy to think it's Ray. And I'm usually wrong about this stuff so I'm sure I'll have to eat cuervo.
Yah, Sara re Padre. He certainly doesn't give any hints of having been involved with Candy. Just that they'd known each other all their lives. Padre seems pretty straight-laced and maybe a little naive, even for a Padre? Seems like he woulda figured out that if a woman is THAT angry and hateful of another woman who happens to be "a sexy bitch who can rock a red dress like nobody's business" (Diva) that the hatred might involve a possible affair between said sexy bitch and angry woman's husband? Oh, well. I've got a feeling those two smart young'uns are going to figure it out pretty soon!
The Valeria actress reminds me of the crazy one playing Irma in Hasta El Fin right now. Maybe it's the hair, but in the credits she looks a LOT like her.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 4:28:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 4:28:00 PM EST
Lol, Lila, I'm in AZ, which I think is Mountain time right now? And I would probably rather be nocturnal 100% of the time, but the rest of the world has this pesky insistence on working during the day and sleeping at night. Last night I was up late because today is Mr. 5ft's birthday and that means CAKE...and fire. Having a recap available before I packed it in for the night was an unexpected bonus :)
Count me in on the "there's no romantic history between Candela and Padre G" camp. The way he greeted her says not. If they were that hot and heavy I don't think "Do you remember me?" is what he'd say.
Count me in on the "there's no romantic history between Candela and Padre G" camp. The way he greeted her says not. If they were that hot and heavy I don't think "Do you remember me?" is what he'd say.
Ha ha! Maybe there are a lot of candles of Mr. 5 ft.'s cake!
Okay, so it was 10:45 p.m. for you when I posted. I was like, okay, this is cool; being up til 2 to do a recap is one thing but I don't think I'm going to be up reading one at that time! HA!
Happy Birthday to Mr. 5 ft!
Okay, so it was 10:45 p.m. for you when I posted. I was like, okay, this is cool; being up til 2 to do a recap is one thing but I don't think I'm going to be up reading one at that time! HA!
Happy Birthday to Mr. 5 ft!
I didn't go so far as to do one candle per year, but there were a lot and they were the sparkly kind (which was a little scary!) and I bunched them pretty close to the middle. The house is still standing and no melons were roasted!
A great episode last night. Thanks to you Lila, I've relived it all over again.
He was trying Aldonza's forbidden fruit.
The kids are taking it easy today after the fiery kiss that the waterfall couldn't even quench.
Roberta looks away, spots something on the ground and picks it up. It's a horseshoe! Pain turns to anger. Lila this is great writing. This said it all, it was perfect.
Cris doesn't seem to be easily moved from his convictions. (not like our last easily manipulated galan)He isn't going to Spain. He's going to stick around and taste a little more of that sweet forbidden fruit.
It would be tragic if Roberta looses the beautiful land. I'm willing to start up a drive to help her keep it.
The police are next to worthless, they didn't even look at Sever's horse to see if he was missing a shoe.
Can't wait to see what Monday brings.
the gringo
He was trying Aldonza's forbidden fruit.
The kids are taking it easy today after the fiery kiss that the waterfall couldn't even quench.
Roberta looks away, spots something on the ground and picks it up. It's a horseshoe! Pain turns to anger. Lila this is great writing. This said it all, it was perfect.
Cris doesn't seem to be easily moved from his convictions. (not like our last easily manipulated galan)He isn't going to Spain. He's going to stick around and taste a little more of that sweet forbidden fruit.
It would be tragic if Roberta looses the beautiful land. I'm willing to start up a drive to help her keep it.
The police are next to worthless, they didn't even look at Sever's horse to see if he was missing a shoe.
Can't wait to see what Monday brings.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 8:33:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 8:33:00 PM EST
Lol, gringo! Kickstarter fund to save the melons! A $100 contribution gets you a day pass to El Santuario with afternoon drinks w/Roberta. For $1000 a young hottie will read you love poetry while you swim and Roberta will break out the top-shelf hooch!
Back from the concert, and I am enjoying the comments. We got to here Johnny of Santo and Johnny ply "Sleepwalk"on the steel guitar...magic.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:12:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:12:00 PM EST
Diva, love that you are still sporting the "i survived TSTSNBN" star.
Sara, lovin' your melon!
J in Oregon
Sara, lovin' your melon!
J in Oregon
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:02:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:02:00 PM EST
Finally got back home and watched the episode. Once more, Lila, I am so impressed with your retelling.
Seems to me that Cris is a bit of a natural flirt and enjoyed the attentions of Val at his side. He's going to have to learn the hard way that this is sending mixed signals.
Prudencia should be writing bodice rippers. She has quite the imagination. I think she must be responsible for most of the gossip circulating in that town.
Loved Roberta's turquoise dress with the leopard print belt. The way it swished at the hem would make it perfect for dancing...or for running around town making arson accusations and berating the police.
Those two small town detectives were remarkably well dressed, no? Their suits were unfortunately sharper than their brains. Obviously they missed the class on critical thinking. Candela knew perfectly well to follow Sever's assurance that he would never set the firs knowing his son was there by suggesting the obvious-- he didn't know his son was there. Duh!
Seems to me that Cris is a bit of a natural flirt and enjoyed the attentions of Val at his side. He's going to have to learn the hard way that this is sending mixed signals.
Prudencia should be writing bodice rippers. She has quite the imagination. I think she must be responsible for most of the gossip circulating in that town.
Loved Roberta's turquoise dress with the leopard print belt. The way it swished at the hem would make it perfect for dancing...or for running around town making arson accusations and berating the police.
Those two small town detectives were remarkably well dressed, no? Their suits were unfortunately sharper than their brains. Obviously they missed the class on critical thinking. Candela knew perfectly well to follow Sever's assurance that he would never set the firs knowing his son was there by suggesting the obvious-- he didn't know his son was there. Duh!
I don't know why but I thought of that leopard print belt today. I guess vestuario was thinking "we made it obvious she's a ho cause we put her in a red dress... TWICE. How can we remind the audience she's a ho? Ah! Leopard print and ankle straps."
And I pored over a lot of melon pictures to get the right one.
It's really a shame I couldn't find a picture of one that had been involuntarily grilled.
*snort*
Maybe the cops should have grilled the melons about the horseshoe.
I'm here all week folks.
It's really a shame I couldn't find a picture of one that had been involuntarily grilled.
*snort*
Maybe the cops should have grilled the melons about the horseshoe.
I'm here all week folks.
Sara...Picking the right melon is so important. Some folks would just pick any old melon. I am relieved that you are discerning. HEY...that melon would look even better with a leopard belt. Just sayin'.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:43:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:43:00 PM EST
If I had photoshop skills (or even had Photoshop) I would totally be putting a leopard print belt on that melon cause my melon is a ho.
Oh boy. I don't know how this is gonna look: Here is a mass transfer of posts I mistakenly put on the QA board. Sorry!
Hi, Vivi! Thank you so much! Prudencia is probably THE major gossip engine in Santa Lucia! That chick is a piece of work!
Roberta was so out done over how they so easily dismissed her evidence on the word of Sever. She thought she really had him!
It's painful to type. I can't find my glasses! Gling to make it through comments and will have to come back tomorrow.
:)
Permalink posted by Blogger Lila : Sat Feb 28, 11:01:00 PM EST
Sara! Love your melon. I can tell you spent a lot of time looking for your melon: it looks like it was indeed ready for its close up!
Permalink posted by Blogger Lila : Sat Feb 28, 11:03:00 PM EST
". . .that melon is a ho!" Giiirrrl, you are on a roll tonight
derned glasses!
Permalink posted by Blogger Lila : Sat Feb 28, 11:10:00 PM EST
gringo. . .I know I responded to you but I can't see my comment! Thank you for your kind words. I literally hope to "see" you all tomorrow! Good night!
Hi, Vivi! Thank you so much! Prudencia is probably THE major gossip engine in Santa Lucia! That chick is a piece of work!
Roberta was so out done over how they so easily dismissed her evidence on the word of Sever. She thought she really had him!
It's painful to type. I can't find my glasses! Gling to make it through comments and will have to come back tomorrow.
:)
Permalink posted by Blogger Lila : Sat Feb 28, 11:01:00 PM EST
Sara! Love your melon. I can tell you spent a lot of time looking for your melon: it looks like it was indeed ready for its close up!
Permalink posted by Blogger Lila : Sat Feb 28, 11:03:00 PM EST
". . .that melon is a ho!" Giiirrrl, you are on a roll tonight
derned glasses!
Permalink posted by Blogger Lila : Sat Feb 28, 11:10:00 PM EST
gringo. . .I know I responded to you but I can't see my comment! Thank you for your kind words. I literally hope to "see" you all tomorrow! Good night!
Since I see that stupid blue and black dress as white and gold, I definitely think there's something wrong with my eyes. :)
Sara and Lila Thank you both SO much for yesterday's and today's WONDERFUL recaps!
It's so late for me this evening and I am dog tired from waaay too much work, but I wanted to thank you both!
Fatima
It's so late for me this evening and I am dog tired from waaay too much work, but I wanted to thank you both!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:49:00 AM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:49:00 AM EST
I have a question/need a memory jog- Are Roberta and Adelina from Santa Lucía? I've always felt they weren't. I've also always assumed Adelina arrived shortly before Aldonza was born.
Good morning! I found 'em! I had to feel where I thought they were and Eureka!
Thank you, Fatima! Awww pobrecita! I'm glad were able to contribute to your moments of relaxation. Come on back when you're refreshed and speculate with us on who Candy's mystery man is and Emanuel's origins -- though that seems to be pretty clear!
Vivi! Stupid dress, indeed! My daughter and husband see the dress as gold/brown and white, my son and I see it as blue and black. I thought the whole "controversy" was whack until we looked at the picture. Reminds me of the black and white renderings of fruit bowls in the old science texts to show us what colorblindness was like. Weird.
Thank you, Fatima! Awww pobrecita! I'm glad were able to contribute to your moments of relaxation. Come on back when you're refreshed and speculate with us on who Candy's mystery man is and Emanuel's origins -- though that seems to be pretty clear!
Vivi! Stupid dress, indeed! My daughter and husband see the dress as gold/brown and white, my son and I see it as blue and black. I thought the whole "controversy" was whack until we looked at the picture. Reminds me of the black and white renderings of fruit bowls in the old science texts to show us what colorblindness was like. Weird.
Sara- Yes. Roberta and Adelina are from another town. Adelina arrived just before Aldonza's christening.
Lila- My nephew is the only one in my immediate family who looked at the damn dress and saw the true colors, black and blue. Now I'm questioning if I really see everything around me as it truly is. Or just what I want to see. Am I living in an alternate reality of my own making, like Prudencia and Valeria? :)
Thanks Vivi. Y'all should no by now that the stuff I wonder about in shows don't really matter, but I appreciate that my questions get answered.
The only dresses I care about are the ones Roberta wears. ;)
The only dresses I care about are the ones Roberta wears. ;)
I saw blue and black every time. And it wasted a lot of class time Friday. I spent most of the time saying "that dress has nothing to do with the preterite and the imperfect. Get to work!"
LOL, Sara! Luckily, I didn't bother to look until Friday night, so no work time was wasted...except on checking into Caray Caray. :)
Yep, Sar, you're right. Within the first minutes of episode one outside the church Roberta comoplains to Adelina that nobody there likes them. This seems to be news to Adelina who minutes later (while Roberta is crashing Cristobal's baptism) asks Raimundo is it true that nobody in town likes them. Raimundo says the problem is that Roberta is not yet used to living in Santa Lucia and being a mother. They coo some over the baby and then Raimundo thanks her for accompanying her sister to Santa Lucia and taking such good care of the baby.
Not sure where they came from but they are not natives.
Not sure where they came from but they are not natives.
Whoa! My last post looks like I still don't have my glasses.
Thanks, Vivi! Yep, they are not from there.
This cracks me up:
Now I'm questioning if I really see everything around me as it truly is. Or just what I want to see. Am I living in an alternate reality of my own making, like Prudencia and Valeria? :)
Hahahahahahah! Yah, kinda does mess with your mind! Long as we don't start drankin' like Pru, we're fine!
;D
Thanks, Vivi! Yep, they are not from there.
This cracks me up:
Now I'm questioning if I really see everything around me as it truly is. Or just what I want to see. Am I living in an alternate reality of my own making, like Prudencia and Valeria? :)
Hahahahahahah! Yah, kinda does mess with your mind! Long as we don't start drankin' like Pru, we're fine!
;D
I saw the dress as blue and black and other photos of it as white and gold. What does that mean? I do not get why people see different colors. Does the same thing happen when people are looking at the actual dress ? I sometimes have trouble distinguishing between shades of brown and purple.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:16:00 AM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:16:00 AM EST
Lila..I once read that everyone has his or her own reality which is why people have disagreements. People see the same situation in their own unique ways.It was an epiphany for me.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:24:00 AM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:24:00 AM EST
So I'm pretty sure there were multiple pictures and I saw some posts that said it was an optical illusion based on the border.
This was one of my faves:
https://instagram.com/p/znz7loh_tf/
This was one of my faves:
https://instagram.com/p/znz7loh_tf/
Haha! Loved that, Sara.
Looked at multiple pics of the dress, even color corrected. The color corrected just looked like someone put a purple filter over a white and gold dress. *shrug* Oh, well!
Looked at multiple pics of the dress, even color corrected. The color corrected just looked like someone put a purple filter over a white and gold dress. *shrug* Oh, well!
OT because I need to get it off my chest- I'm going to be really upset if Uni does not air Yo no creo en los hombres and El color de la pasión.
Two well received shows and Uni has so far taken a pass on both. Grrr.
Two well received shows and Uni has so far taken a pass on both. Grrr.
Vivi in DC, I have often found it helpful to live in an alternate reality of my own making!
It's called "sanity".
:))
Fatima
It's called "sanity".
:))
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 11:30:00 AM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 11:30:00 AM EST
Sara- Yes. Both of those did so well in Mexico, got critical acclaim, AND are dominating this year's awards, it just seems crazy that Uni hasn't bothered to show them and hint as to when they will.
And I know it doesn't mean anything because Uni can and has changed its mind at the last minute, but I'm flabbergasted that we're getting Amores con trampas promos.
I understand that some names get bigger ratings, but I'm not convinced that there are consistently different viewing habits between Mexico and the US.
You can't tell me friends aren't talking to each other across borders and saying "you have to see YNCELH. It's good!"
By the time Uni airs it I bet folks will have already sought it out online.
I understand that some names get bigger ratings, but I'm not convinced that there are consistently different viewing habits between Mexico and the US.
You can't tell me friends aren't talking to each other across borders and saying "you have to see YNCELH. It's good!"
By the time Uni airs it I bet folks will have already sought it out online.
I know I already have. The only reason I'm not giving in to temptation is that I'm still hoping it airs here and Caray decides to recap it.
Sara, agree with your comments.
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 11:45:00 AM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 11:45:00 AM EST
I am very glad we're getting Sombra! It seems to have decent ratings AND a positive buzz. Not sure what the critics say.
Susanlynn. . you speak truth and that thought helps me deal with some difficult people in my life and actually diffuse some anger that was eating at ME!
Re: Yo no creo en los hombres and El color de la pasión. Wow! Would love to see those but didn't the Mexican audience like TSTSNBN?
Anybody know if Televisa, Univsion ever wrote anything (serious) about what they think of their North of the border audience? Do they care what we think; are they even aware of hus?
OT: Hope my mommy's wi-fi is back up. . .hate trying to post on a teeny weeny phone!
Re: Yo no creo en los hombres and El color de la pasión. Wow! Would love to see those but didn't the Mexican audience like TSTSNBN?
Anybody know if Televisa, Univsion ever wrote anything (serious) about what they think of their North of the border audience? Do they care what we think; are they even aware of hus?
OT: Hope my mommy's wi-fi is back up. . .hate trying to post on a teeny weeny phone!
OT- I think most of my comments are posted from my phone. I've got all kinds of weirdness saved to my keyboard. "Latoodle" is always auto completed for me. Lol.
It's so tedious for me. . .got to have me a physical, slide out keyboard, too! If that makes me an old fogy, by gum I proud of it!
;D
;D
I prefer a keyboard. It's faster, but I've got my phone with me most of the time. I try not to post/comment at work since "they" can see my Internet history.
And when I screw up I can blame my phone.
And when I screw up I can blame my phone.
Oh another question/clear up my misunderstanding comment - when did Candela start sending Cristobal off to schools outside the country? Did he spend most of his youth away and only came back for Christmas and summer?
Sara- I don't think we know, and we probably never will. I think the writers think it's enough for us to know that Candela has tried to get Cris out of the town/area and away from Sever as much as possible over the years. He's been there enough for a lot of folks to be fond of him and for everyone to be able to recognize him on sight, but not enough for him to know the day to day of what's happening with everyone.
Sara, I was wondering that about Cristobal myself (re school away from home). Maybe the young man is so seemingly normal because he WAS away from home.
If ever there was a candidate to be a "mommy's boy", this guy is it. So far, so good.
Also, Prudencia did not seem such a lush in the beginning episodes. What happened to change her? Was it Humberto bringing Emanuel into the house? I am not clear on that point, but she seems to be drinking at all hours of the day. NO ONE seems to say anything to her.
Fatima
If ever there was a candidate to be a "mommy's boy", this guy is it. So far, so good.
Also, Prudencia did not seem such a lush in the beginning episodes. What happened to change her? Was it Humberto bringing Emanuel into the house? I am not clear on that point, but she seems to be drinking at all hours of the day. NO ONE seems to say anything to her.
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:37:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:37:00 PM EST
Perhaps Prudencia is just bored with her life. Perhaps she should start working. She seems aimless and without purpose.
I agree, Vivi. She should work. Of course, I'm sure she thinks her plan to marry off her daughter to the Prince IS her work.
I haven't quite figured out Humberto, either.
Fatima
I haven't quite figured out Humberto, either.
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:44:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:44:00 PM EST
How sad is that, Fatima. I think you've nailed it. Sending Cristobal away probably did save him a lot of crazy.
I have to agree the Pru is drinking because she's bored. I guess she's avoided being the subject of gossip only because she is the source and no one will probably say anything negative about her because of her relationship with Cande.
So why is Cande ok with Val? I know there's the whole "she's one of us", but could someone like that be found elsewhere?
I guess it's a control thing.
I have to agree the Pru is drinking because she's bored. I guess she's avoided being the subject of gossip only because she is the source and no one will probably say anything negative about her because of her relationship with Cande.
So why is Cande ok with Val? I know there's the whole "she's one of us", but could someone like that be found elsewhere?
I guess it's a control thing.
I lean toward feeling pity for Humberto but then I remember him agreeing to be complicit in a lot of horrors and he barely put up a fight.
For now, and as long as the girl is "one of us", I think Candela will accept anyone to keep her precious boy away from the "bad girl".
As the years have gone by, I think Candela has really enjoyed her control. Severiano has told her that outright.
She wants to control her son, but thankfully, the son seems to have not inherited so many of his parents' bad attributes.
Fatima
As the years have gone by, I think Candela has really enjoyed her control. Severiano has told her that outright.
She wants to control her son, but thankfully, the son seems to have not inherited so many of his parents' bad attributes.
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:48:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:48:00 PM EST
I understand the pity towards Humberto, but he was certainly spineless in what he did to Roberta when she had that baby.
This is certainly Humberto's alternate reality (LOVE that, Vivi!). In any other reality, that physician would be up before the medical board.
Fatima
This is certainly Humberto's alternate reality (LOVE that, Vivi!). In any other reality, that physician would be up before the medical board.
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:51:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 12:51:00 PM EST
Lots of alternate realities on this show.
I feel bad for Aldonza. She is suffering because of everyone else's alternate realities.
I feel bad for Aldonza. She is suffering because of everyone else's alternate realities.
Yes, Sara, you are right, but what a lovely heroine we have this go around!
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:09:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:09:00 PM EST
I didn't get the feeling Candela was thrilled with the idea of Cris with Valeria, because it would put her in that much closer contact with Prudencia. Maybe if some other socially-acceptable young woman was around, Candela would throw her in Cristobal's direction instead. Since there isn't, Prudencia gets the keep the dream alive for a little longer.
I am trying to translate the titles that you are talking about..."I Do Not Believe Men'' and ''The Color of Passion''...????
I am spoiled using the IPad. I don't even want to use the laptop or desktop anymore.However, I dropped my Apple and have to find a place to have it repaired, so I am using Hub's cheaper Le pen.
Snowing here again and Hub has to drive an hour to pick up the girls at their father's house. He would only agree to two hours earlier than usual..4.oo ...idiot.
I am spoiled using the IPad. I don't even want to use the laptop or desktop anymore.However, I dropped my Apple and have to find a place to have it repaired, so I am using Hub's cheaper Le pen.
Snowing here again and Hub has to drive an hour to pick up the girls at their father's house. He would only agree to two hours earlier than usual..4.oo ...idiot.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:16:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:16:00 PM EST
Lila, sweet and luscious recap. Loved the title. Candy certainly was omnipresent, wasn't she?
"According to Prudencia Cristobal got burned because he was over at Las Animas trying Aldonza’s forbidden fruit!" and "...her loose lips lubricated with liquor" were among my favorites.
I loved Roberta's fire and passion and Aldonza's sweetness wrapped in gumption.
So sorry to be late but enjoyed all the comments.
susanlynn, so sorry the issues with your ex-SIL are still occurring. Keeping all of you in my thoughts and prayers.
Diana
"According to Prudencia Cristobal got burned because he was over at Las Animas trying Aldonza’s forbidden fruit!" and "...her loose lips lubricated with liquor" were among my favorites.
I loved Roberta's fire and passion and Aldonza's sweetness wrapped in gumption.
So sorry to be late but enjoyed all the comments.
susanlynn, so sorry the issues with your ex-SIL are still occurring. Keeping all of you in my thoughts and prayers.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:36:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:36:00 PM EST
Hi, Diana! Thank you, m'dear! It's never too late to join in! What a fun weekend chatting about melons, and dresses, alternate realities and lush losers in life living vicariously through their young ones. . . .and the young ones kicking and screaming, "NO"!
I try to ignore previews but I am heartened that our two lovers will meet in person soon. . .I DO NOT want to see another domineering mama win battle after battle with a malleable mama's boy!
Keep fighting Cris!
I try to ignore previews but I am heartened that our two lovers will meet in person soon. . .I DO NOT want to see another domineering mama win battle after battle with a malleable mama's boy!
Keep fighting Cris!
5FT, I agree with your comments re Candela's "choices" for her son. Yet, Candela wants to plan a trip to Espana WITH Prudencia! I think there are other things Candela could do locally to remove Aldonza from Cristobal's sight, but a tip with Prudencia?! HOLY COW.
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 2:07:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 2:07:00 PM EST
I guess it's a reflection of how desperate she is. I'm also surprised that she's never made the move to Spain herself...the better to monitor his behavior and introduce him to eligible women and keep him away from rameras. Or maybe she doesn't think there are any in Spain.
A lifetime of computer experience and what do I use it for? To make snark and melon hos. At least y'all appreciate my twisted skillz :)
Sara, I agree!! I love the new "luke" of your melon ho!!
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 2:37:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 2:37:00 PM EST
Lawd have mercy! Y'all are too much!
Now. That's what you call a friend: a gal who'll help make a ho outta ya melon. Word!
Now. That's what you call a friend: a gal who'll help make a ho outta ya melon. Word!
OY! We are going to have a blast with the melon theme. :))
Skillz. yes, 5FT, you have them and then some!!
I don't know what I would do without the laughter this group brings. :))
Fatima
Skillz. yes, 5FT, you have them and then some!!
I don't know what I would do without the laughter this group brings. :))
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:03:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:03:00 PM EST
Lila I forgot to say that when I first saw your title for the recap the other evening, it sounded like a "Little Golden Book"!! ...in a twisted sort of way. :))
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:04:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:04:00 PM EST
That melon lukes maaaaahvelous :p
Speaking of madams...am I the only one who is having trouble with this whole "Roberta is a ho" story? Sure, she's got the dresses and the leopard print belts and the shoes with the ankle strap so she never has to worry about them falling off at an inopportune moment...but if she's really trading sex for $$ then she's either not charging enough or spending it all.
I disagree with her detractors. I'd be willing to believe that there are men she sees occasionally and that she enjoys their, er, carnal attentions. And maybe they occasionally help her out with the odd expense, but that's not the same.
Speaking of madams...am I the only one who is having trouble with this whole "Roberta is a ho" story? Sure, she's got the dresses and the leopard print belts and the shoes with the ankle strap so she never has to worry about them falling off at an inopportune moment...but if she's really trading sex for $$ then she's either not charging enough or spending it all.
I disagree with her detractors. I'd be willing to believe that there are men she sees occasionally and that she enjoys their, er, carnal attentions. And maybe they occasionally help her out with the odd expense, but that's not the same.
Kat- I agree with you that stories of Roberta's ho status are have been vastly exaggerated. But I do think they purposely showed us her kissing that mystery man after the big time jump to show she's no saint either.
5FT, I agree with your observations re Roberta.
...and re the LGBs! I KNOW!!
I've mentioned this once before, but there is much more to Padre Geronimo than meets the eye. Do I think he was ever involved with Candela? No. I wasn't "feeling" it during their convo. He wasn't looking in the least bit torn about seeing her. It was just a factual, we were friends as chilren. I did NOT get any "Thorn Birds" vibe during that specific convo.
Fatima
...and re the LGBs! I KNOW!!
I've mentioned this once before, but there is much more to Padre Geronimo than meets the eye. Do I think he was ever involved with Candela? No. I wasn't "feeling" it during their convo. He wasn't looking in the least bit torn about seeing her. It was just a factual, we were friends as chilren. I did NOT get any "Thorn Birds" vibe during that specific convo.
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:11:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:11:00 PM EST
Most saints don't sound like they were a lot of fun to hang out with :D
I suppose Candela has been celibate for the last 20-something years and she is no fun at all!
I suppose Candela has been celibate for the last 20-something years and she is no fun at all!
5FT, I'd like to see you make an avatar for yourself that says: "No me toques!" I laugh EVERY time I hear that phrase. I LOFF it.
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:13:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 3:13:00 PM EST
I'm not sure anyone really thinks she's a legit "working" girl, but the ladies at least think she's a loose woman.
So when I call her a ho I mean a very loose woman. Not a prostitute.
But Cande for sure thinks she trades favors for money.
Like you said, Diva... It's more like she trades favors for trinkets or the odd expense. And I don't even think it's "I'll give you sex you pay to fix the irrigation system" I think she moaned about an expense and someone offered to pay. Then maybe she was a little less likely to say no to a man's affections.
I think maybe she's been a serially monogamous kept woman sort of kind of.
So when I call her a ho I mean a very loose woman. Not a prostitute.
But Cande for sure thinks she trades favors for money.
Like you said, Diva... It's more like she trades favors for trinkets or the odd expense. And I don't even think it's "I'll give you sex you pay to fix the irrigation system" I think she moaned about an expense and someone offered to pay. Then maybe she was a little less likely to say no to a man's affections.
I think maybe she's been a serially monogamous kept woman sort of kind of.
Yay for having the right clip art image already on my computer!
I could see Roberta having just the one guy that she sees on a regular basis. And if that's the case, what does it mean that when the shit hit the fan, that's NOT who she went running to.
I could see Roberta having just the one guy that she sees on a regular basis. And if that's the case, what does it mean that when the shit hit the fan, that's NOT who she went running to.
Love the avatar! (am I missing a joke though?)
Roberta has it bad for Sever and always has.
I think Cande used to be nice. Then Roberta and Sev happened.
Roberta was probably always selfish and used her feminine wiles to get what she wanted. She met Sev, had a thing for Zorro and the rest was history.
Roberta has it bad for Sever and always has.
I think Cande used to be nice. Then Roberta and Sev happened.
Roberta was probably always selfish and used her feminine wiles to get what she wanted. She met Sev, had a thing for Zorro and the rest was history.
Fatima's suggestion. I would have made one with a waterfall and "You know you want me" in honor of El Santuario, but none of the waterfall pictures I found look quite right when reduced to tiny little squares.
Awww, "Little Golden Book", Fatima! That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy! couldn't think of anything else but it was clear Cand was running around trying to put people in their "right places" as Las Animas is a giant doll house!
Roberta is just a gal with a healthy sexual appetite and not willing to swear off fulfilling her needs for days, months and years on end for a little thing like, say, widowhood. What got her ho status is acting like a ho. She crashed Cristobal's baptism and then stood there exchanging "knowing" looks with Sever, looks complete with smiling, slightly parted lips, steady, direct gazes and raised eyebrowys. The stunt she pulled at Ray's funeral wasn't very subtle either. Yelling and screaming at towns people doesn't mean you're a ho but it doesn't help.
So, if she weren't so brazen and impulsive, a little more classy or even bummed around in sweats and sneakers sometimes, maybe being "sex positive" could be an alternate reality she could enjoy in private instead of having all the men covet, and the women curse, her melons.
Roberta is just a gal with a healthy sexual appetite and not willing to swear off fulfilling her needs for days, months and years on end for a little thing like, say, widowhood. What got her ho status is acting like a ho. She crashed Cristobal's baptism and then stood there exchanging "knowing" looks with Sever, looks complete with smiling, slightly parted lips, steady, direct gazes and raised eyebrowys. The stunt she pulled at Ray's funeral wasn't very subtle either. Yelling and screaming at towns people doesn't mean you're a ho but it doesn't help.
So, if she weren't so brazen and impulsive, a little more classy or even bummed around in sweats and sneakers sometimes, maybe being "sex positive" could be an alternate reality she could enjoy in private instead of having all the men covet, and the women curse, her melons.
Thanks, Sara. That is exactly what Candy is acting like. "I'm the momma and this is MY doll house and you have to do what I SAY!" And she's got a scary, black, 3-legged dog to sic on you if you don't play right!
Lila, if Roberta "bummed around in sweats and sneakers sometimes" I think that would only make the town biddies hate her even more! Can you imagine her running around town in yoga pants and all the heads swiveling to follow? Roberta's is the sexy that cannot be hidden. I think she's becoming my idol. Well, except for the drinking alone in the afternoon, lusting after Sev, being mean to family, and killing her husband. But other than that :D
wow..a melon wearing a leopard belt. Caraycaray is an amazing place..just ask for something and it is done .
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:27:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:27:00 PM EST
Candy is SO that one girl that the other girls don't like to play with because she always picks the games and then she gets mad when they don't let her win. And sometimes it's fun to hang out with her because she has all the coolest toys, but then it gets to the point where you think "So what? She never lets anyone else play with them."
Yeah, I've had a Candy...or two...or three...in my life.
Yeah, I've had a Candy...or two...or three...in my life.
Susanlynn, graphics I can do...or I can fake well enough. If my powers were mightier...well, TSTSNBN would never have happened.
5FT, thank you SO much for making my day with that avatar of yours! I am STILL dying laughing. I feel like I want to use that phrase at work, but NO ONE would understand a darn thing I am saying or why I am even saying it!!
I think you make a good point about La Candela. After awhile, who cares?!
I wonder if Sever has been fooling around all these years?
Fatima
I think you make a good point about La Candela. After awhile, who cares?!
I wonder if Sever has been fooling around all these years?
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:45:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:45:00 PM EST
I know Candela thinks he's been, but with all the gossip in this town, he'd have to be making some road trips to get his jollies. So...possible, but inconvenient. Maybe if he has to go out of town a lot anyway to do things like check out horses.
This is why I love Caray, Caray! There aren't a ton of people I know IRL who get the jokes about "no me toques" and "no puede ser!" and the ones who do get them, I don't get to hang out with very often.
This is why I love Caray, Caray! There aren't a ton of people I know IRL who get the jokes about "no me toques" and "no puede ser!" and the ones who do get them, I don't get to hang out with very often.
Diva -- oh yea, we've all met some Candys!
Fatima, there is NO WAY Sever is NOT getting his ashes hauled!
Fatima, there is NO WAY Sever is NOT getting his ashes hauled!
ah yes,''That Darn Cat.'' I must say that I gave upon on that long before that zombie stagger tonits end. I also gave up on the current 10.00 show and will concentrate on Sombra. one novels is all I have time for.
From the opening sequence,it looks like there will be quite a few characters added. It will be interesting to see where this storyline goes. I feel sorry for Emmanuel. Talk about feeling unwanted. Have we decided that he is the disappeared Bebe ?
From the opening sequence,it looks like there will be quite a few characters added. It will be interesting to see where this storyline goes. I feel sorry for Emmanuel. Talk about feeling unwanted. Have we decided that he is the disappeared Bebe ?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:52:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:52:00 PM EST
My chubby butt would probably hate Roberta in yoga pants. I'm sure she ROCKS them, too.
I have the greatest job in the world because I can TEACH everyone around me to say no me toques and no puede ser. I do and they say that stuff all the time. They've picked up cállate and I have to constantly remind them how rude it is and to notice it's the villains who always say it.
I have the greatest job in the world because I can TEACH everyone around me to say no me toques and no puede ser. I do and they say that stuff all the time. They've picked up cállate and I have to constantly remind them how rude it is and to notice it's the villains who always say it.
It's something like 99% definite that Emmanuel is Roberta and Sev's baby.
I don't believe Humberto's story about knowing Emmanuel's mother and promising she would take care of him after she died. And I'm baffled that Prudencia accepted that...at least enough to accept Emmanuel, even if she doesn't like him being there.
I don't believe Humberto's story about knowing Emmanuel's mother and promising she would take care of him after she died. And I'm baffled that Prudencia accepted that...at least enough to accept Emmanuel, even if she doesn't like him being there.
Do you explain the words that get bleeped out, too? :D
I always feel weird when I'm translating those, or attempting to translate...I don't want anybody to get in trouble for saying them at the wrong time in the wrong place!
I always feel weird when I'm translating those, or attempting to translate...I don't want anybody to get in trouble for saying them at the wrong time in the wrong place!
You guys, I am DYING laughing!!!
Lila, "getting his ashes hauled"!!!
Sara, "grilling his melons mercilessly"!!! I love it that you can teach others all of these sayings that we love. You lucky dog, you!
Vivi in DC, I think I remember Candy Girl saying that to Sever once, but I kinda blew it off.
I figure the guy HAS to be doing some fooling around. After all, he has told Candy Girl more than once that he has "his needs". I die laughing when I hear that, too!!
Fatima
Lila, "getting his ashes hauled"!!!
Sara, "grilling his melons mercilessly"!!! I love it that you can teach others all of these sayings that we love. You lucky dog, you!
Vivi in DC, I think I remember Candy Girl saying that to Sever once, but I kinda blew it off.
I figure the guy HAS to be doing some fooling around. After all, he has told Candy Girl more than once that he has "his needs". I die laughing when I hear that, too!!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:05:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:05:00 PM EST
Prudencia said that Humberto told her Emmanuel was the child of a patient who was dying who made him promise to care for her some. Val asked if Humberto is prone to such generous/self-less gestures and Pru thought about it for a second and said sometimes he is. So no, she didn't find it weird that he would do such a thing. And that's when Val suggested that Emmanuel is really Humberto's love child and the dying patient thing was a lie.
We really only watch the novelas rosas and there aren't a lot of really horrible words. Bruja might be translated as botch... But that depends on the age of the person saying it. When an 8 year old character says Bruja they translate "witch." Lol.
And sometimes in movies they will use a word that's common in that country but not as crude as a dictionary defines it. I usually turn off the subtitles for the nano second the word is used.
And sometimes in movies they will use a word that's common in that country but not as crude as a dictionary defines it. I usually turn off the subtitles for the nano second the word is used.
...I die laughing because she gives him The Evil Inquisition Stink Eye when he says it. :)
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:06:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:06:00 PM EST
Sara, I CANNOT stop laughing when I see that melon avatar!
I am sitting at my desk where I SHOULD be finishing up my taxes, but I just can't help coming back for more laughs!
Fatima
I am sitting at my desk where I SHOULD be finishing up my taxes, but I just can't help coming back for more laughs!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:08:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:08:00 PM EST
But still I can't believe Pru didn't just ask Humberto to just take the baby to a huerfanato. Pru must have a heart too.
The early patio is pretty fun to hang around in.
I think TSTSNBN made us all insane and we'll be completely normal again.
I think TSTSNBN made us all insane and we'll be completely normal again.
Fatima, I'm so sorry. I did my taxes last week and it sucked up an entire day. I end up getting to the point where I can't find all my paperwork and I say "screw the deduction, I don't care anymore!"
5 FT, that is what I am working on right now...the deductions. I've missed a few and it fries me. I had placed receipts in the wrong place. In any event, this has taken up my ENTIRE day. Coming here has kept me going. :))
Fatima
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:21:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:21:00 PM EST
I'm trying to switch to digital receipt copies instead of paper, but now I'm running into the problem that the file names mean nothing and I'm not "attaching" them to my transactions in Quicken consistently. So I'm not drowning in paper, but I still can't find everything I need. *sigh* It's a work in progress.
I've read some interesting articles about the kinds of expenses actors can deduct, but no way in hell am I going to do the math necessary to claim part of my cable bill (for study purposes), wardrobe (that ends up being used as costuming), beauty treatments (not that I get to do those very often), fitness equipment (haha, ha, hahaha), cell phone bill (since that's how my agent contacts me, plus sometimes it doubles as a prop) etc., etc., etc.
I've read some interesting articles about the kinds of expenses actors can deduct, but no way in hell am I going to do the math necessary to claim part of my cable bill (for study purposes), wardrobe (that ends up being used as costuming), beauty treatments (not that I get to do those very often), fitness equipment (haha, ha, hahaha), cell phone bill (since that's how my agent contacts me, plus sometimes it doubles as a prop) etc., etc., etc.
Believe me, I hear you, 5FT.
For now, I am sticking with paper. I write notes on the paper to clearly identify what is really deductible. I wasn't doing so hot with the digital receipts.
I don't go crazy with the deductions, either. Who has that kind of time?!
Can you imagine Candela doing her own taxes?!? NOT!
Fatima
For now, I am sticking with paper. I write notes on the paper to clearly identify what is really deductible. I wasn't doing so hot with the digital receipts.
I don't go crazy with the deductions, either. Who has that kind of time?!
Can you imagine Candela doing her own taxes?!? NOT!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:38:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:38:00 PM EST
Oh, no, I'm sure Candela and Severiano have an accountant, and not just for tax time.
Roberta, on the other hand...yikes...I don't even want to think about it. I hope Adelina handles all of that and Roberta stays way the hell out of it. But if that's the case, then why was Adelina so shocked to hear that they're on the verge of collapse? She didn't even know about the other mortgage.
Roberta, on the other hand...yikes...I don't even want to think about it. I hope Adelina handles all of that and Roberta stays way the hell out of it. But if that's the case, then why was Adelina so shocked to hear that they're on the verge of collapse? She didn't even know about the other mortgage.
I don't think the bank had to send Adelina any info or notices about the loan. If there were notices for payment, they came to Roberta, and she probably burned them in her ashtrays.
I also get the feeling that maybe the mortgage was less-than-officially sanctioned because of the way the banker appears to be trying to cover his own ass, asking Sev to buy the land.
If Roberta does have anything like crop insurance, the state of her finances is going to make it look like she's the one who burned the fields.
If Roberta does have anything like crop insurance, the state of her finances is going to make it look like she's the one who burned the fields.
Wow. I hadn't even thought of that. She better quit twirling her skirt around the police dept then.
Damn. Is it Monday yet?
Damn. Is it Monday yet?
Hmmm...you've got some good points there, 5FT. It also takes money to buy crop insurance. I doubt Roberta had the money for that.
I wish the Adelina we saw initially would "come back". She was appropriately forceful and direct with Roberta. how can they all be living in that fancy house and not wondering how the bills are paid?!
Fatima
I wish the Adelina we saw initially would "come back". She was appropriately forceful and direct with Roberta. how can they all be living in that fancy house and not wondering how the bills are paid?!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 8:07:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 8:07:00 PM EST
It would be a question of is the insurance premium paid up and until when. If she's going month-to-month, no way! If she paid a year's premium at once, as a condition of the mortgage, or if it was included in the mortgage (the way property insurance goes into an escrow account and the mortgage company pays it) then maybe she would be covered...but that wouldn't be because of her foresight and amazing business sense.
Adelina has to know something about their finances! Somebody's buying the tortillas, and it's not Roberta!
Adelina has to know something about their finances! Somebody's buying the tortillas, and it's not Roberta!
According to Candle, Roberta is twirling the tortillas all over town and sellin' 'me. But apparently everyone is lowballin' her.
*ahem*
*ahem*
I don't think the hacienda/land was mortgaged until Roberta just mortgaged it. No one knows what she did with the money-- she refused to tell Adelina and she refused to tell Padre when he asked. So I'm sure Adelina HAS been paying grocery bills, workers, seeds, repairs, etc, from the money earned by the orchard, not knowing Roberta had made NEW bills for them by mortgaging the house and land.
Hahahaha...I can picture what Roberta must be like to live with on a daily basis. The appeal of the pretty dresses and the flashing eyes would dim after the fifth time she complains that there's no food in the pantry and only comes home from the grocery store with liquor and cigarettes. I bet she drops her clothes all over the floor and uses up all the hot water in the tank, too! I would suspect that if Adelina ever buys something the least bit sexy, Roberta borrows it without asking and either doesn't bother returning it or stains it.
I've been a little grumpy about Adelina not wanting a relationship with Joaquin, but what would that look like? If they get serious and she wants to marry him, where are they going to live? In the house? With Roberta wandering around pantsless most of the day?
I've been a little grumpy about Adelina not wanting a relationship with Joaquin, but what would that look like? If they get serious and she wants to marry him, where are they going to live? In the house? With Roberta wandering around pantsless most of the day?
Well, at least Adelina honestly doesn't seem to want a relationship with Joaquin. It would be annoying to me if she were actually pining for him, but not doing anything about it. But her reaction to him declaring his love (which seemed like he had already done so multiple times) was pretty much the same way Cris reacts to Val's attentions. "That's nice. (Pat on the head.) Now, go away."
The hospital bills! From when Roberta had the baby. Did she pay them with the mortgage money, possibly? And just tell Adelina "Don't worry about it, it's taken care of." And Adelina didn't ask because nobody was coming around hassling them about it?
Twirling her tortillas...lol, Sara! Homemade tortillas are a precious commodity! Sell high!
Twirling her tortillas...lol, Sara! Homemade tortillas are a precious commodity! Sell high!
But when did she get the mortgage? Let's assume the house and land were paid for and owned. Padre G did say his parents started the farm. So Ray may not have had a house payment. After he died Roberta could have gotten the mortgage. Things were tight before Ray even died. Most mortgages are for 15 to 30 years aren't they? (well at least here.)
Maybe it's only in the last year Roberta has gotten behind.
Maybe it's only in the last year Roberta has gotten behind.
Good grief, I hope not! Though that begs the question...exactly how behind on her payments IS she? And did banker man actually discuss it with her, ever, or did he only bring it up with Adelina because she was asking for a loan?
Haha...comments passing in the night! The "I hope not!" was for the idea of her not having paid the darn thing at all for the last 20 years!
He said he was a friend of Ray's, so I could see him fudging some things to help out his dead friend's widow, but as the years went on and his constant warnings and begging don't seem to motivate her to make payments on time...or at all...he might be starting to get desperate that his bosses are going to notice and he's going to have no justification for having issued her this loan. Maybe it's been an ongoing thing that she flakes on the payments until after melon season is over and then she's able to pay enough that he just sighs and deals with it. Only this time, it's not going to work, because there are no melons to sell! And the tortillas aren't bringing in enough :p
Gee..Lots of money talk....taxes ..mortgages.
Two hour delays for local schools. I feel like this winter is never going to end.
Two hour delays for local schools. I feel like this winter is never going to end.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 10:21:00 PM EST
: Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 10:21:00 PM EST
I'm also hearing about people being stranded out of town until at least Tuesday. Meanwhile, our high today in Phoenix was 75...down to 65 tomorrow.
Re: weather; I am tired of Climate Change, and wish we could get back to Global Warming.
Sara, love your new avatar.
Looking forward to tonight's episode. It's nice to have something positive to look forward to instead of anticipating how bad the next installment will be as on TSTSNBM.
Gringo, do you think we could sell some of these anvils left over from the last TN and help out Roberta with the mortgage?
I find the plays on words re: melons very humorous. Our melons here in Knox County aren't hos, but they are so good that they do sell themselves, so, I don't know if selling yourself constitutes hoism or not.
5ft, just wish we all could have your temperatures. Sounds great.
David
Sara, love your new avatar.
Looking forward to tonight's episode. It's nice to have something positive to look forward to instead of anticipating how bad the next installment will be as on TSTSNBM.
Gringo, do you think we could sell some of these anvils left over from the last TN and help out Roberta with the mortgage?
I find the plays on words re: melons very humorous. Our melons here in Knox County aren't hos, but they are so good that they do sell themselves, so, I don't know if selling yourself constitutes hoism or not.
5ft, just wish we all could have your temperatures. Sounds great.
David
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 2, 2015 at 7:54:00 AM EST
: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 7:54:00 AM EST
Self employed melons - sell themselves. No middle man. Independent contractors. Lol. Knox County melons are not hos. They are the melons next door. The kind you take home to mother.
I think you're on to something David. It is nice to have a sense of happy anticipation about a show and not dread. On that other show my happy anticipation came from the patio.
I think you're on to something David. It is nice to have a sense of happy anticipation about a show and not dread. On that other show my happy anticipation came from the patio.
Yeah, Sara, the Patio has never let us down, has it?
David
David
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 2, 2015 at 8:31:00 AM EST
: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 8:31:00 AM EST
Good morning. Last night, as I was reading comments and smiling at the sassylooking melons, Instarted trying to remember if I had any leopard clothing. I knew that I did not own a leopard belt, but I was surprised this morning as I opened my closet door to see the leopard sundress and skirt that I bought last summer. The warm weather must have had me feeling frisky and risky. Now, I will never be able to wear them without thinking about Sara's melon. Well, time to get ready to go out into the snow and ice to teach about advice and decision making.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 2, 2015 at 8:54:00 AM EST
: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 8:54:00 AM EST
I feel terrible susanlynn!!
I think you should wear that leopard print with frisky and risky pride!! And TWIRL that skirt!!!
I think you should wear that leopard print with frisky and risky pride!! And TWIRL that skirt!!!
Okay..I am back from work, and I am anxiously awaiting more melon melodrama. Let's all twirl.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 2, 2015 at 3:55:00 PM EST
: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 3:55:00 PM EST
Eli, it's raining in Phoenix, too. Nobody ever knows how to drive in it *sigh*
Susanlynn, bring on the melondrama!
Susanlynn, bring on the melondrama!
"melondrama"
Lol!
Not to offend, but I remember getting a text from my daughter the first time she drove in LA when it was raining : "Angelinos can't drive in the rain!"
I told her it must be similar to us driving in the snow.
Lol!
Not to offend, but I remember getting a text from my daughter the first time she drove in LA when it was raining : "Angelinos can't drive in the rain!"
I told her it must be similar to us driving in the snow.
More snow and ice headed our way tomorrow. I give up.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:21:00 PM EST
: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:21:00 PM EST
I'm going to find me a twirl skirt. I love the dresses Roberta/Susana is wearing. Do you think they were specially made for the TN?
Maybe I'll check out Nordstrom and see if they have any.
Fatima
Maybe I'll check out Nordstrom and see if they have any.
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:35:00 PM EST
: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:35:00 PM EST
I found some here: http://www.modcloth.com/shop/skirts
Fatima
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: Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:44:00 PM EST
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