Thursday, July 30, 2015
La Sombra del Pasado #117(US, Mx 120) 7/30/15 I suck at titles
Felt like word salad to me tonight. It's probably must me.
Aldonza vows to find out the truth about her father's death.
The search party that looks a little bit like a possee looks for Em. Mudo finds Em's shirt draped on a branch.
Candela whines because Cris is not at her side. He cares more about Em than he cares about meeee!
Ren tells Aldonza that it's going to be hard to solve Ray's death and prove who did it. It's been years. And if she's going to accuse Sev, she might want to have some proof.
Em is passed out near the waterfall at El Santuario. I wonder if there are any outtakes from this scene. I bet they're funny.
Val has lines about Em. Hum comes up and Cande manages to turn that around to "hey, have you had that ultrasound yet?"
Mel tells Adelina and Aldonza that Em has been found and taken to the clinica.
Padre goes to see Cande. She's afraid of losing her son's affections. Padre J encourages her to find her way back to the person she once was. Padre runs into Sev on his way out. Sev flips his lid. Padre J says it was CANDE who he was here to see and it's HER house, NOT SEV'S.
Sev hightails it to Cande's room and yells at her about Padre J's visit. Cande reminds him that it's HER house and she can have whoever she wants come visit. A screaming match ensues. Blame is thrown. Eventually Cande gets around to screaming that this Em situation is all Aldonza's fault. She's the one that had Ray exhumed. Sev is cara de oh shit and flashbacks.
Val goes to see Hum. I think she has word salad lines that equate to giving Hum hell about being Sev's flunky. Blanca calls to interrupt her. Thank God. I'm just tired of her. Hum jumps to the ready and heads to the clinica.
Renato updates Silvia about Em. She's rightfully pissy about Ren's behavior. Her relationship with Tomas is not his business. She and Ren are never going to happen, so what business is it of his who she goes out with. She has fun with Tomas and he treats her like a queen.
At the clinica Aldonza frets about Em. I think Hum said he had alcohol poisoning, but he's out of danger and conscious now.
Mel updates Sev. (I'm twelve so the way they cut off the scallops of the fountain look like boobs or testicles. Take your pick.)
Aldonza and Cris go to see Em. It doesn't go well. He is despondent and starts to cry. They leave. Outside they discuss where Em can stay. Cris is ready to take him to a hotel if need be. Aldonza wonders if maybe he could stay with Joaquin. Adelina isn't sure since Flavia is back. Joaquin shows up on queue. Aldonza takes advantage to ask Joaquin if Ray had any enemies. Ray only had one: Severiano Mendoza. He hated Ray because he had El Santuario.
Pru and Val talk about Em. All I got out of the conversation was this line from Pru to Val: "Face it honey, Em is a Mendoza. UNLIKE that baby you're carrying." If they said anything earth shattering or revealing. Please let me know.
Sev goes to see Det Icompetente. I think he wants his gun back. Aldonza barges in and demands that the two bullets from Ray's body be compared with Sev's gun. (And if they match? Who cares? Chain of custody? Ever heard of it? Those bullets don't mean sqaut.) Aldonza thinks a match will prove that someone killed her father. Sev threatens to sue her for defamation. Sev wants his gun back. He blusters about Det. Incometente believing a crazy WOMAN over the great and powerful Sev.
Cris is back from the clinica. Just in time to hear Cande whine about how he's not paying attention to her.
Det Incompetente explains that they can try to compare the bullets. But they were fired so long ago. It would be an amazing coincidence if they matched Sev's gun. And right now Sev's gun is with the judge in Adriano's case(?)
Silvia goes to see Tomas and apologize for Renato's behavior. She did have a great time, but reminds Tomas they are just friends. Tomas asks "with benefits?" Silvia finally breaks down "OK. Con poquitos derechos." They kissy kissy. Unbeknownst to them, Pru is watching.
Ren finishes up with Aldonza. The animals they are going to raise will be arriving at El Santuario. She leaves and Pato comes into the station.
Seve and Aldonza clash outside the station. Sev tells her to leave it alone. She is going to wake demons.
Pato pokes fun at Ren about the jealous fit and punching Tomas. Pato reminds Ren that Slivia is a grown woman. Let her live her life. Apparently Ren can't do that.
Cris prepares for his shower. He thinks about times with Em. Val sneaks into his room and snoops. Dom catches her and tosses her out. It was AWWWWE-SOME(™hellashelle.) Then they get into a screaming match in the hallway. Val calls Dom an igualada. It gets Cande's attention.
Slivia and Tomas are having a good ol' time in her office. Ren apologize to Tomas. Did Tomas tell Ren he hits like a vieja? Tomas accepts the apology. Tomas has to go. Mari reminds Silvia of some appointment with a client at some cafe.
Cande tells Val she's not allowed in Cris's room unless she's been given permission. It burns Val's butt that Cande took Dom's side. I'm sure something important was said. Fill in. Cande tells Val not to tell her what to do. (Speaking of igualadas.....)
Seve flashes back and experiences phantom pain.
Padre J talks Em into staying at the parish house.
Lola and Aldonza talk about Pato. Blech. It's all BS. Things are fine, Lola claims. Aldonza knows Lola is dying. Whatever.
Em is settled in at PJs. Em wants to know how he gets used to the idea of being Sev's son. Padre tells him that Aldonza and Cris aren't at fault. They are suffering, too.
Silvia's waited, but her client never showed up. On her way back to the office, she's attacked. The culprits take her phone. Did the spray mace in her eyes? I was writing.
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Aldonza vows to find out the truth about her father's death.
The search party that looks a little bit like a possee looks for Em. Mudo finds Em's shirt draped on a branch.
Candela whines because Cris is not at her side. He cares more about Em than he cares about meeee!
Ren tells Aldonza that it's going to be hard to solve Ray's death and prove who did it. It's been years. And if she's going to accuse Sev, she might want to have some proof.
Em is passed out near the waterfall at El Santuario. I wonder if there are any outtakes from this scene. I bet they're funny.
Val has lines about Em. Hum comes up and Cande manages to turn that around to "hey, have you had that ultrasound yet?"
Mel tells Adelina and Aldonza that Em has been found and taken to the clinica.
Padre goes to see Cande. She's afraid of losing her son's affections. Padre J encourages her to find her way back to the person she once was. Padre runs into Sev on his way out. Sev flips his lid. Padre J says it was CANDE who he was here to see and it's HER house, NOT SEV'S.
Sev hightails it to Cande's room and yells at her about Padre J's visit. Cande reminds him that it's HER house and she can have whoever she wants come visit. A screaming match ensues. Blame is thrown. Eventually Cande gets around to screaming that this Em situation is all Aldonza's fault. She's the one that had Ray exhumed. Sev is cara de oh shit and flashbacks.
Val goes to see Hum. I think she has word salad lines that equate to giving Hum hell about being Sev's flunky. Blanca calls to interrupt her. Thank God. I'm just tired of her. Hum jumps to the ready and heads to the clinica.
Renato updates Silvia about Em. She's rightfully pissy about Ren's behavior. Her relationship with Tomas is not his business. She and Ren are never going to happen, so what business is it of his who she goes out with. She has fun with Tomas and he treats her like a queen.
At the clinica Aldonza frets about Em. I think Hum said he had alcohol poisoning, but he's out of danger and conscious now.
Mel updates Sev. (I'm twelve so the way they cut off the scallops of the fountain look like boobs or testicles. Take your pick.)
Aldonza and Cris go to see Em. It doesn't go well. He is despondent and starts to cry. They leave. Outside they discuss where Em can stay. Cris is ready to take him to a hotel if need be. Aldonza wonders if maybe he could stay with Joaquin. Adelina isn't sure since Flavia is back. Joaquin shows up on queue. Aldonza takes advantage to ask Joaquin if Ray had any enemies. Ray only had one: Severiano Mendoza. He hated Ray because he had El Santuario.
Pru and Val talk about Em. All I got out of the conversation was this line from Pru to Val: "Face it honey, Em is a Mendoza. UNLIKE that baby you're carrying." If they said anything earth shattering or revealing. Please let me know.
Sev goes to see Det Icompetente. I think he wants his gun back. Aldonza barges in and demands that the two bullets from Ray's body be compared with Sev's gun. (And if they match? Who cares? Chain of custody? Ever heard of it? Those bullets don't mean sqaut.) Aldonza thinks a match will prove that someone killed her father. Sev threatens to sue her for defamation. Sev wants his gun back. He blusters about Det. Incometente believing a crazy WOMAN over the great and powerful Sev.
Cris is back from the clinica. Just in time to hear Cande whine about how he's not paying attention to her.
Det Incompetente explains that they can try to compare the bullets. But they were fired so long ago. It would be an amazing coincidence if they matched Sev's gun. And right now Sev's gun is with the judge in Adriano's case(?)
Silvia goes to see Tomas and apologize for Renato's behavior. She did have a great time, but reminds Tomas they are just friends. Tomas asks "with benefits?" Silvia finally breaks down "OK. Con poquitos derechos." They kissy kissy. Unbeknownst to them, Pru is watching.
Ren finishes up with Aldonza. The animals they are going to raise will be arriving at El Santuario. She leaves and Pato comes into the station.
Seve and Aldonza clash outside the station. Sev tells her to leave it alone. She is going to wake demons.
Pato pokes fun at Ren about the jealous fit and punching Tomas. Pato reminds Ren that Slivia is a grown woman. Let her live her life. Apparently Ren can't do that.
Cris prepares for his shower. He thinks about times with Em. Val sneaks into his room and snoops. Dom catches her and tosses her out. It was AWWWWE-SOME(™hellashelle.) Then they get into a screaming match in the hallway. Val calls Dom an igualada. It gets Cande's attention.
Slivia and Tomas are having a good ol' time in her office. Ren apologize to Tomas. Did Tomas tell Ren he hits like a vieja? Tomas accepts the apology. Tomas has to go. Mari reminds Silvia of some appointment with a client at some cafe.
Cande tells Val she's not allowed in Cris's room unless she's been given permission. It burns Val's butt that Cande took Dom's side. I'm sure something important was said. Fill in. Cande tells Val not to tell her what to do. (Speaking of igualadas.....)
Seve flashes back and experiences phantom pain.
Padre J talks Em into staying at the parish house.
Lola and Aldonza talk about Pato. Blech. It's all BS. Things are fine, Lola claims. Aldonza knows Lola is dying. Whatever.
Em is settled in at PJs. Em wants to know how he gets used to the idea of being Sev's son. Padre tells him that Aldonza and Cris aren't at fault. They are suffering, too.
Silvia's waited, but her client never showed up. On her way back to the office, she's attacked. The culprits take her phone. Did the spray mace in her eyes? I was writing.
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Great work, Sara.
The bullets recovered from Raimundo's remains were fired by a gun Sev owned, but I doubt it's the one currently in police custody. After Sev and Roberta covered up the crime scene with arson she buried the murder weapon and the leather jacket that Sev had worn earlier in the night. She dug that gun up several years later and it failed to fire. I don't remember what happened to it after that.
So any test on those bullets now is meaningless unless Sev reclaimed and rehab-ed the original murder weapon. He might have owned several identical ones, but we don't know that.
The bullets recovered from Raimundo's remains were fired by a gun Sev owned, but I doubt it's the one currently in police custody. After Sev and Roberta covered up the crime scene with arson she buried the murder weapon and the leather jacket that Sev had worn earlier in the night. She dug that gun up several years later and it failed to fire. I don't remember what happened to it after that.
So any test on those bullets now is meaningless unless Sev reclaimed and rehab-ed the original murder weapon. He might have owned several identical ones, but we don't know that.
Nice just the facts recap, Sara.
Urban- It is the same gun that shot Ray that Lardo stole from Sever, after Sever recovered it from Roberta after she dug it up and tried to shoot him. That's why Sev is so worried.
I think Ren did make Al aware that even if it's the same gun, they can't do much about it all these years later. But she just wants to know. There's value in knowing who is the murderer of your father, even if you can't do much about it.
Loved Dom telling Val off and telling her to stop shamelessly offering herself up to Cris. She knew Val was about to get nekkid and hop in that shower with Cris. And if Val hasn't learned by now that the second most important person in Cande's life is Dom, then she's an idiot. Between Dom and she, Dom's going to win every time.
Urban- It is the same gun that shot Ray that Lardo stole from Sever, after Sever recovered it from Roberta after she dug it up and tried to shoot him. That's why Sev is so worried.
I think Ren did make Al aware that even if it's the same gun, they can't do much about it all these years later. But she just wants to know. There's value in knowing who is the murderer of your father, even if you can't do much about it.
Loved Dom telling Val off and telling her to stop shamelessly offering herself up to Cris. She knew Val was about to get nekkid and hop in that shower with Cris. And if Val hasn't learned by now that the second most important person in Cande's life is Dom, then she's an idiot. Between Dom and she, Dom's going to win every time.
Poor Eman. I felt like crying when he was crying. I can't tell if this weepy, catatonic state is better than the angry and drunk state he was in before.
Al was trying to convince Lola to at least speak with Eman to clear the air, and close the circle with him if she was going to insist on being with Pato. But if she didn't do that then her feelings for Eman would just linger without closure, which isn't fair to Pato.
Al was trying to convince Lola to at least speak with Eman to clear the air, and close the circle with him if she was going to insist on being with Pato. But if she didn't do that then her feelings for Eman would just linger without closure, which isn't fair to Pato.
I was almost cheering Dominga in this episode. She knows what she's dealing with here because she saw Vile and Sev getting creepy. Not that she was ever a fan of Vile, either.
I didn't remember Sev recovering that gun, so thanks, Vivi.
I didn't remember Sev recovering that gun, so thanks, Vivi.
Sara, your finely tuned recap said exactly what it needed to, peppered with your usual spice and insight. "word salad" and "Val has lines about Em" were among my favorites.
There was slight solace in the not so subtle put-downs of Sev by both Cande and the Padre strongly stating that only Cande can deny entrance and evict guests of her choosing as after all she, not Sev IS the owner. Sev is so slick (oily, certainly not suave) when he tries to lay on the charm with that lopsided smile as he did at the police station. I agree, it was very gratifying to see him worried about the gun, as well he should.
I enjoyed Pato's ribbing of Renato regarding Silvia. While I (almost regretfully) do not think she and Tomas will end up together, I'm glad she is enjoying herself as Tomas sparks her life with fun and laughter, something Renato seems to have forgotten all together in his tunnel vision quest for Aldonza.
Vivi, I wish Lola had heeded Aldonza's advice and had spoken to Eman. Eman now appears beaten and utterly defeated. There are times when words are absent that show the greatest heartache. His silence was more upsetting than if he'd screamed in anger and frustration.
It appears Hum and his entire family is disaster bound. His faithless, loveless cruel wife as well as his lying, vengeful daughter. Similarly, it appears only Cris will escape his family's likely terrible ending.
Sara, thank you for yet another terrific recap.
Diana
There was slight solace in the not so subtle put-downs of Sev by both Cande and the Padre strongly stating that only Cande can deny entrance and evict guests of her choosing as after all she, not Sev IS the owner. Sev is so slick (oily, certainly not suave) when he tries to lay on the charm with that lopsided smile as he did at the police station. I agree, it was very gratifying to see him worried about the gun, as well he should.
I enjoyed Pato's ribbing of Renato regarding Silvia. While I (almost regretfully) do not think she and Tomas will end up together, I'm glad she is enjoying herself as Tomas sparks her life with fun and laughter, something Renato seems to have forgotten all together in his tunnel vision quest for Aldonza.
Vivi, I wish Lola had heeded Aldonza's advice and had spoken to Eman. Eman now appears beaten and utterly defeated. There are times when words are absent that show the greatest heartache. His silence was more upsetting than if he'd screamed in anger and frustration.
It appears Hum and his entire family is disaster bound. His faithless, loveless cruel wife as well as his lying, vengeful daughter. Similarly, it appears only Cris will escape his family's likely terrible ending.
Sara, thank you for yet another terrific recap.
Diana
Permalink posted by 
: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:20:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:20:00 PM EDT
Gracias, Sara! I love when you're thinking the same things I was! The search party looked like a posse, Sev's "oh shit!" face, the boobs in the foreground when Sev was talking to Mel, chain of custody for two bullets in a sandwich bag, "speaking of igualadas."
Val is becoming ridiculous. Or reaching new depths of ridiculousness maybe. I'm pretty sure someone who was just about to open a bathroom door without knocking doesn't get to call anyone else a metiche! And then she insisted on trying to get back in there? And went to go tell her tia that Dominga was being meeeeeeeean? Uh, ok.
Cande, likewise repetitive. Though, she's welcome to repeat "This is MY house!" to Sev as many times as she wants to. That never gets old :)
I feel like Det. Incompetente doesn't really think the bullets came from Sev's gun, but he's going to do the test because he's tired of Aldonza berating him. I'm sure he'll be surprised when the tests come back saying the bullets were fired from Sev's gun, but as you, and he, said--there's nothing he can do about it.
I'm pissed that they messed with Silvia. It could just be because I can't stand Mari, but...was there something suspicious about the reminder about the meeting and the client not showing up and Silvia just happening to get accosted? And also, is it too far-fetched to think Sev hired those guys?
Pobre de Emanuel. Vivi, I don't know whether weepy and catatonic is better than angry and drunk. I have a feeling he's not going to be done with either of those for a while. How, indeed, does one come to terms with having Sev for a father?
Val is becoming ridiculous. Or reaching new depths of ridiculousness maybe. I'm pretty sure someone who was just about to open a bathroom door without knocking doesn't get to call anyone else a metiche! And then she insisted on trying to get back in there? And went to go tell her tia that Dominga was being meeeeeeeean? Uh, ok.
Cande, likewise repetitive. Though, she's welcome to repeat "This is MY house!" to Sev as many times as she wants to. That never gets old :)
I feel like Det. Incompetente doesn't really think the bullets came from Sev's gun, but he's going to do the test because he's tired of Aldonza berating him. I'm sure he'll be surprised when the tests come back saying the bullets were fired from Sev's gun, but as you, and he, said--there's nothing he can do about it.
I'm pissed that they messed with Silvia. It could just be because I can't stand Mari, but...was there something suspicious about the reminder about the meeting and the client not showing up and Silvia just happening to get accosted? And also, is it too far-fetched to think Sev hired those guys?
Pobre de Emanuel. Vivi, I don't know whether weepy and catatonic is better than angry and drunk. I have a feeling he's not going to be done with either of those for a while. How, indeed, does one come to terms with having Sev for a father?
Thanks, Sara! Sara, I am so bummed at the attack on Sylvia. That stuff they poured on her, making a special effort to get it in her eyes had better not cause blindness. This is the work of that g.d. Prudencia. I addressed her comeuppance in the Karmageddon post but I think I went to easy on her. She needs to be exposed, locked up and beat the crap out of every day in prison. What a contemptible piece of dried excrement she is!
Maybe more tomorrow. Thanks again, Sara!
Maybe more tomorrow. Thanks again, Sara!
Lila, I didn't think about Pru possibly being responsible for the attack on Silvia! Well, turns out I *can* dislike her even more than I already do.
Lila, ITA it was Prudencia behind the attack on Silvia. At first I thought it might have been acid but I hope Pru wasn't that sick. It wasn't Sev or Cande...
Diana
Diana
Permalink posted by : Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:48:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:48:00 PM EDT
Okay, one more thing. Why the hell didn't Cris, Aldonza or both go in their and swallow Eman in a big, ole loving embrace of comfort and solidarity. He wasn't pushing them away or telling them to leave he was just sobbing bitterly and their answer was, "ok, let's go."? WHAAT? Sad and frustrating scene.
I swear that stuff they threw? poured? on Silvia was red. I wondered if it was hot sauce on first viewing. When I rewound it, it looked more like a powder? And the guy with the phone was yelling something, but I couldn't hear him.
Lila, yes! It seemed like Cris was embarrassed to see Em crying and didn't want to watch. Humberto shutting the door on him while he was sobbing just seemed cruel.
Diva and Diana, at first I thought Mari as well but I remember Pru staring at Tomas and Silvia in the street and fuming at them. She tried to gurn Silvia away with her bad-mouthing Tomas and when that didn't work I could really see her doing something like this. She is cranking the evil up notch by notch. Maybe they threw us off with the Mari thing. We'll see tomorrow.
You're right Kat.
Hugs would have done wonders for Eman. But in fairness, Aldonza may have felt giving him space was what he needed, especially after the way he treated her when she told him he was her brother.
Diana
Hugs would have done wonders for Eman. But in fairness, Aldonza may have felt giving him space was what he needed, especially after the way he treated her when she told him he was her brother.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:56:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:56:00 PM EDT
It was totally Pru behind the attack on Silvia. Remember how she wanted Tomas to harm Tere. I'm sure she's not above trying to blind or maim her supposed rival.
I'm determined enough to blame Mari that I want to believe that at the very least it was her secretarial incompetence that allowed it to happen. Like maybe Pru called and pretended to be Mr. whoever's assistant to find out where Silvia would be and Mari gave the info up too easily. Or maybe Pru was Mr. Whoever.
I think because of the angry way he reacted to them both the last time, neither Al nor Cris felt they had the right to just go hugging on Eman. Not sure I would have given him a bear hug either, until he showed his willingness to be touched.
They keep looking for a way to somehow "make" Emmanuel be ok with it, or make up for what happened, but they can't. And if they try, by doing things like sharing all their wordly goods with him, I think that's going to make it worse.
Thanks everyone!
HOLY CARP IT DIDN'T EVEN CLICK TO ME THAT PRU WAS BEHIND THE ATTACK!
well duh! *facepalm*
HOLY CARP IT DIDN'T EVEN CLICK TO ME THAT PRU WAS BEHIND THE ATTACK!
well duh! *facepalm*
Severiano is merely a sperm donor in this case; in no way should the word "father" apply. That is how this has to be presented to Emanuel. Cristobal seems to be arriving at that viewpoint for himself.
I agree that Candela would have been light years better off had she divorced Sev at the outset. She was young, rich, and beautiful; she could have had her pick of wealthy men to marry if that was what she wanted. Or just raise Cristobal alone. Her choice to maintain the marriage for appearances' sake was completely wrong both for her and Cristobal. Of course, then we would not have had a story.
Emanuel would be better off shouting, yelling, throwing things than in his current state of catatonia. At least he would be communicating and someone might have a chance of getting him to listen. This turning inward will not help him. He needs a shrink badly.
I agree that Candela would have been light years better off had she divorced Sev at the outset. She was young, rich, and beautiful; she could have had her pick of wealthy men to marry if that was what she wanted. Or just raise Cristobal alone. Her choice to maintain the marriage for appearances' sake was completely wrong both for her and Cristobal. Of course, then we would not have had a story.
Emanuel would be better off shouting, yelling, throwing things than in his current state of catatonia. At least he would be communicating and someone might have a chance of getting him to listen. This turning inward will not help him. He needs a shrink badly.
"Sev is cara de oh shit" Sara, you so speak my language, thank you
"Hum jumps to the ready"
"She's rightfully pissy"
"I'm twelve so the way they cut off the scallops of the fountain look like boobs or testicles. Take your pick"
That gd Pru, please don't let that be acid but totally within Pru's wheelhouse. She would do a little jig over a disfigurement and blindness. She stoned Aldonza in the street and just tried to lynch and burn down her house and out on bail.
Wait just a minute, how is it Renato gets to be all butthurt over both Aldonza and Silvia equally.
Doesn't bother me Aldonza and Cris are giving Emanuel some space, he's known this for all of one day. I don't want Lola to be the one flying in and licking his emotional wounds. She has never supported him and to now, because he is a "somebody", to me, opportunistic.
While it may work out for plot sake, the gun Roberta used to kill Ray was an automatic and a revolver was used to kill Abelardo.
"Hum jumps to the ready"
"She's rightfully pissy"
"I'm twelve so the way they cut off the scallops of the fountain look like boobs or testicles. Take your pick"
That gd Pru, please don't let that be acid but totally within Pru's wheelhouse. She would do a little jig over a disfigurement and blindness. She stoned Aldonza in the street and just tried to lynch and burn down her house and out on bail.
Wait just a minute, how is it Renato gets to be all butthurt over both Aldonza and Silvia equally.
Doesn't bother me Aldonza and Cris are giving Emanuel some space, he's known this for all of one day. I don't want Lola to be the one flying in and licking his emotional wounds. She has never supported him and to now, because he is a "somebody", to me, opportunistic.
While it may work out for plot sake, the gun Roberta used to kill Ray was an automatic and a revolver was used to kill Abelardo.
Mornin' y'all! Re the hug for Eman, y'all make good points! Maybe it's me wanting to hug him! I think he would have accepted a silent embrace and a shoulder to cry on. Maybe I'll get that scene tonight!
Diva at 11:00, I think you are absolutely right about Mari's involvement and this meshes perfectly with my theory of Pru as the "mastermind" behind the attack on Silvia:
it was her secretarial incompetence that allowed it to happen. Like maybe Pru called and pretended to be Mr. whoever's assistant to find out where Silvia would be and Mari gave the info up too easily.
They had better not blind and disfigure Sylvia! That is SOOO something Pru deserves herself! If they do, it will be a clear sign of misogynistic punishing of a smart, professional woman who actually does her job instead of giving the audience constant boob shots and upskirts! Uuuuuuf! I'm mad already!!
Diva at 11:00, I think you are absolutely right about Mari's involvement and this meshes perfectly with my theory of Pru as the "mastermind" behind the attack on Silvia:
it was her secretarial incompetence that allowed it to happen. Like maybe Pru called and pretended to be Mr. whoever's assistant to find out where Silvia would be and Mari gave the info up too easily.
They had better not blind and disfigure Sylvia! That is SOOO something Pru deserves herself! If they do, it will be a clear sign of misogynistic punishing of a smart, professional woman who actually does her job instead of giving the audience constant boob shots and upskirts! Uuuuuuf! I'm mad already!!
Sara - Thank you for the recap!
Dominga rocked last night!
Sev's "cara de oh shit" was priceless.
It never occurred to me that anyone was behind the attack on Silvia. Well, duh!
I am still worried about Eman.
In the scene where Silvia & Tomas were walking down the street, he in his mechanic's jumpsuit and her in a twirly skirt & high heels, for a minute there I thought they might break into a musical number from Grease.
"Wait just a minute, how is it Renato gets to be all butthurt over both Aldonza and Silvia equally."
He would fit in very well in a polygamy culture.
Seriously, Aldonza became more of a bad habit for Ren. I've wondered, for a few months, if he would end up falling for Silvia. None of this behavior has surprised me. REMEMBER WHAT Pad Jer told Silvia? Let it go, find some other love, love will find you...blah blah blah or whatever he said. She did just that and this is how it goes. (well, PadJer's counsel went that way for me, 39 years ago. Bad breakup, I swore off men for six months, started hanging with the new neighbor the next day --- [he always kept M&Ms & Hershey's Kisses out in a bowl! I swear I kiept going over there for the chocolate! Te lo juro!] --- and a year later we were married)
Dominga rocked last night!
Sev's "cara de oh shit" was priceless.
It never occurred to me that anyone was behind the attack on Silvia. Well, duh!
I am still worried about Eman.
In the scene where Silvia & Tomas were walking down the street, he in his mechanic's jumpsuit and her in a twirly skirt & high heels, for a minute there I thought they might break into a musical number from Grease.
"Wait just a minute, how is it Renato gets to be all butthurt over both Aldonza and Silvia equally."
He would fit in very well in a polygamy culture.
Seriously, Aldonza became more of a bad habit for Ren. I've wondered, for a few months, if he would end up falling for Silvia. None of this behavior has surprised me. REMEMBER WHAT Pad Jer told Silvia? Let it go, find some other love, love will find you...blah blah blah or whatever he said. She did just that and this is how it goes. (well, PadJer's counsel went that way for me, 39 years ago. Bad breakup, I swore off men for six months, started hanging with the new neighbor the next day --- [he always kept M&Ms & Hershey's Kisses out in a bowl! I swear I kiept going over there for the chocolate! Te lo juro!] --- and a year later we were married)
Thank you Sara, this recap was just the right amount of info to fill in a few blanks I had last night.
It also didn't occur to me that Pru was behind the attack, but now that you mention it, it did look like hot sauce and not mace, like I originally thought and that seem more like something Pru would instigate.
Eman has to go through the grieving steps. First denial, anger, bargaining, depression, then acceptance. But I'm not sure which one he's on right now. We've seen anger, maybe the catatonic state is an in between state.
It also didn't occur to me that Pru was behind the attack, but now that you mention it, it did look like hot sauce and not mace, like I originally thought and that seem more like something Pru would instigate.
Eman has to go through the grieving steps. First denial, anger, bargaining, depression, then acceptance. But I'm not sure which one he's on right now. We've seen anger, maybe the catatonic state is an in between state.
Done mopping up the coffee I spit out and need to tell you this recap was a gem Sara. Your fountain mention was a dousy!!
Yeah, I took it that the town lush was behind the attack on Sylvia and for that Pru is going to need a big anvil. She may have just been annoying. crass, cruel and manipulative in the past, but she took it one step too far now. Stand her up next to her daughter and let's see if there is a two for one sale going on with Anvils right now.
Because Val took on Skank-ho to a whole new level. I actually realized I was cheering Dom on a little too loud as I watched that.(Son came out of the laundry room and just looked at me like I had totally lost it.) She so wants to be the lady of the manor...never going to happen. But we did get some shirtless moments last night...for that we are thankful on the patio. Been a bit skimpy on those.
Gotta say, Alex S. is killing it as he plays through this E-man reveal. The sobbing in the hospital, yeah I had to get up and get something of the fruity variety to drink. That was just heart breaking. And I do wish there had been a little more from Cris and Allie too at the hospital-- something of comfort as they walked out even like "we love you, we are here for you when you are ready...", but I"m sure the writers are saving for some big hug/sibling moment. At least finding him sobered Hum up. But darn, I thought we could get a Simonetta sighting while he was at the waterfall.
They are really hitting home the fact that the house( and adjoining stables, etc) are Cande's. I think that is going to be significant in what happens to the place. C'mon woman, make things good with people if you are so God-fearing and give it to the boys...like NOW, and kick that scum-bucket Sev to the curb. He needs to twist in the wind more before his final doom.
But if Sev is worried about the truth on the gun, he might as well spill it that it was Rob who shot Ray and give Allie a hit between the eyes? And E-man since it would reveal their mother as a killer. Ade is the only one who is out there to say yeah or nay based on what her sister told her, and she's so good at hiding things she'll just start sobbing and running from the room and Allie will know it's the truth. That should seal it between aunt and niece and Sev would be off the hook. Doubt it plays out that way, but it would seem logical from his perspective.
Lord, how much hang-dogging by Lola do we have to take?
Love that EM is at PJ's. The healing house.
Daisynjay
Yeah, I took it that the town lush was behind the attack on Sylvia and for that Pru is going to need a big anvil. She may have just been annoying. crass, cruel and manipulative in the past, but she took it one step too far now. Stand her up next to her daughter and let's see if there is a two for one sale going on with Anvils right now.
Because Val took on Skank-ho to a whole new level. I actually realized I was cheering Dom on a little too loud as I watched that.(Son came out of the laundry room and just looked at me like I had totally lost it.) She so wants to be the lady of the manor...never going to happen. But we did get some shirtless moments last night...for that we are thankful on the patio. Been a bit skimpy on those.
Gotta say, Alex S. is killing it as he plays through this E-man reveal. The sobbing in the hospital, yeah I had to get up and get something of the fruity variety to drink. That was just heart breaking. And I do wish there had been a little more from Cris and Allie too at the hospital-- something of comfort as they walked out even like "we love you, we are here for you when you are ready...", but I"m sure the writers are saving for some big hug/sibling moment. At least finding him sobered Hum up. But darn, I thought we could get a Simonetta sighting while he was at the waterfall.
They are really hitting home the fact that the house( and adjoining stables, etc) are Cande's. I think that is going to be significant in what happens to the place. C'mon woman, make things good with people if you are so God-fearing and give it to the boys...like NOW, and kick that scum-bucket Sev to the curb. He needs to twist in the wind more before his final doom.
But if Sev is worried about the truth on the gun, he might as well spill it that it was Rob who shot Ray and give Allie a hit between the eyes? And E-man since it would reveal their mother as a killer. Ade is the only one who is out there to say yeah or nay based on what her sister told her, and she's so good at hiding things she'll just start sobbing and running from the room and Allie will know it's the truth. That should seal it between aunt and niece and Sev would be off the hook. Doubt it plays out that way, but it would seem logical from his perspective.
Lord, how much hang-dogging by Lola do we have to take?
Love that EM is at PJ's. The healing house.
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 8:18:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 8:18:00 AM EDT
Thanks everyone!
I'm just reading the comments and getting mad, nodding my head in agreement and saying "yeah, what about that!"
I'm also wondering where Renato had the right to say anything to Silvia.
I really feel like Em has the right to respond the way he is. OK, maybe not so much the anger at Aldonza and Cris. But I'm in the audience. He already had so many issues about his self worth and identity. This was an expected reaction to me.
Working in my classroom today. See y'all this afternoon.
I'm just reading the comments and getting mad, nodding my head in agreement and saying "yeah, what about that!"
I'm also wondering where Renato had the right to say anything to Silvia.
I really feel like Em has the right to respond the way he is. OK, maybe not so much the anger at Aldonza and Cris. But I'm in the audience. He already had so many issues about his self worth and identity. This was an expected reaction to me.
Working in my classroom today. See y'all this afternoon.
Have to add after reading daisynjay's comment - I had the thought last night that the casting of Alex S. was a stroke of genius. Only he could have pulled of the role of Roberta's child.
Lila. ITA. Hasn't Pru shown she is nuts and deserves lock up? We get it already.
Silvia is too much woman for this show and consistent with this and other TN's the writers don't know what to do with one. If Renato comes sniffing back around that is somehow a big win for her, wtf?
Silvia is too much woman for this show and consistent with this and other TN's the writers don't know what to do with one. If Renato comes sniffing back around that is somehow a big win for her, wtf?
Sara girl, you done good, recap goodness.
Stuff I liked about last nite's ep:
1)They found Em.
2) moma Dom kicked a**
3) Val got her lyin a** handed to her by a sweet ol soul.
4) Its always good to see cande suffer, and she can't get up and walk away. Tho I see now she can walk a bit. That's good, then she can be up and about when she gets knocked back off her queeensize arse again.
I hope somebody grabs that big fowl mouth pru and........... I can't stand her. And ya'll know she's responsible for what happened to silvia.
"Face it honey, Em is a mendoza. Unlike that. Baby youre carrying". Face it sara, thpsr two po hoes sin't said nothing earth shattering.:-)
Stuff I liked about last nite's ep:
1)They found Em.
2) moma Dom kicked a**
3) Val got her lyin a** handed to her by a sweet ol soul.
4) Its always good to see cande suffer, and she can't get up and walk away. Tho I see now she can walk a bit. That's good, then she can be up and about when she gets knocked back off her queeensize arse again.
I hope somebody grabs that big fowl mouth pru and........... I can't stand her. And ya'll know she's responsible for what happened to silvia.
"Face it honey, Em is a mendoza. Unlike that. Baby youre carrying". Face it sara, thpsr two po hoes sin't said nothing earth shattering.:-)
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:20:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:20:00 AM EDT
Wouldn't it be priceless to see Ren decide he wants Silvia, and Silvia says "too late, dude, I am so over you"?
Thanks, Sara, for that bopping recap.I am on vacation north of the border and did not get to watch the action south of the border.
I am disappointed that Don did not pull a tiny vial of pepper spray out of her crossbody bag and give that little squirt a little squirt. On top of being spoiled and ruthless, Vile is dumb, dumb, dumb. Do not mess with Dom, Dummy, she is the closest living being to Candy besides sonnyboy. Dummy. She is not like all the other servants you so care!ess!y and callously kick around. Dummy.Cris rejects her at every turn, but that girl is persistent and ready to try the always popular telenovela ploy " getting in the shower with the galan."
So sorry poor Sylvia was attacked. Girl cannot catch a break. She needs a very sunny, happy ending as a reward for her !kya!ty and intelligence and patience.
Hum is a tragic figure. I think that he is not truly evil but rather lazy and weak...a perfect tool for Sev's evil plans.
Sonetimes, you are too sad for tears or talk..that is a very scary situation go be in. No one can help you..so why btalk. You try nktbtyo feel anything. You have to decide if you can or want to go on. I think that E is trying to process this new information . I think that he will be all right eventually with the help of Al, Cris, Padre, and...Lola. Meh. I wish Lola would grow up and stop acting and ta!king !ike a 12 year old.
I am disappointed that Don did not pull a tiny vial of pepper spray out of her crossbody bag and give that little squirt a little squirt. On top of being spoiled and ruthless, Vile is dumb, dumb, dumb. Do not mess with Dom, Dummy, she is the closest living being to Candy besides sonnyboy. Dummy. She is not like all the other servants you so care!ess!y and callously kick around. Dummy.Cris rejects her at every turn, but that girl is persistent and ready to try the always popular telenovela ploy " getting in the shower with the galan."
So sorry poor Sylvia was attacked. Girl cannot catch a break. She needs a very sunny, happy ending as a reward for her !kya!ty and intelligence and patience.
Hum is a tragic figure. I think that he is not truly evil but rather lazy and weak...a perfect tool for Sev's evil plans.
Sonetimes, you are too sad for tears or talk..that is a very scary situation go be in. No one can help you..so why btalk. You try nktbtyo feel anything. You have to decide if you can or want to go on. I think that E is trying to process this new information . I think that he will be all right eventually with the help of Al, Cris, Padre, and...Lola. Meh. I wish Lola would grow up and stop acting and ta!king !ike a 12 year old.
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:34:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:34:00 AM EDT
Doris...My honey always had peppermint lifesavers in his pocket when we were dating. That Candy will get you every time. It shows that they are sweet.
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
sara...so how is the old classroom looking ? I am still waiting to hear if I have any classes because enrollment is down. One of my former students now has a big job at a major company and was going to be our summer commencement speaker , but be has to be out of the country for business. I had him in reading, writing, and speaking classes just six days after he arrived in this country, and then I taught him in several other classes. I am so proud of him. sometimes teaching is a very rewarding profession.
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:45:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:45:00 AM EDT
This was episode #120 in Mexico. Please, everyone, put a subhead on the remaining recaps showing the Mexican episode number.
I hope the Univision doesn't chop up any more of the remaining episodes because there are still other things left to reveal:
-- The truth behind Raimundo's death
-- Mari starting Emanuel on the road to alcoholism
-- Mari trying to frame Lola for theft
-- The paternity of Vile's bun
-- Sev's real estate scheme
-- Nava and Sev's forging of the horse ownership documents
-- The rest of the truth about Emanuel's birth (e.g., Candela's involvement)
-- The truth behind Abelardo's murder (along with the truth behind the arson of Aldonza's condo)
-- Simoneta's murder
-- Aldonza's rape
Did I forget anything?
I hope the Univision doesn't chop up any more of the remaining episodes because there are still other things left to reveal:
-- The truth behind Raimundo's death
-- Mari starting Emanuel on the road to alcoholism
-- Mari trying to frame Lola for theft
-- The paternity of Vile's bun
-- Sev's real estate scheme
-- Nava and Sev's forging of the horse ownership documents
-- The rest of the truth about Emanuel's birth (e.g., Candela's involvement)
-- The truth behind Abelardo's murder (along with the truth behind the arson of Aldonza's condo)
-- Simoneta's murder
-- Aldonza's rape
Did I forget anything?
Sara - OMG yes, school starts soon for you, doesn't it?!?. Seems like you just finished only a month ago! Ack!!!
Metro schools (adjacent county) start back on Monday, our county public schools start the following Monday.
Where did the summer go???
Metro schools (adjacent county) start back on Monday, our county public schools start the following Monday.
Where did the summer go???
Urban Anthropologist, I understand where the request for episode numbers is coming from, and I made a similar suggestion, but I won't require that of my team members. We've all got our hands full with various things. I'm sure a mention in the comments is sufficient.
By far, the best part of last night was Dom catching Val in Cris's room and calling her on it. I too figured she was on her way to stepping in the shower with him.
I know I sound like a broken record, but it's absolutely absurd to have Cande constantly asking where Cris is and needing him to stay home. I hope these actors are getting a good laugh at how ridiculous it is.
I know I sound like a broken record, but it's absolutely absurd to have Cande constantly asking where Cris is and needing him to stay home. I hope these actors are getting a good laugh at how ridiculous it is.
Speaking of episode numbers, Hulu is not going by the mexican episode numbers, it's going by the episode that was shown in the US, which for this one, would be #117.
Thanks for this, Sara. You shone like you always do, and this was really important because I couldn't follow very much because of the extremely poor quality of the Spanish CC's.
Gobluefan, in the Spanish CC's, they were referring to Aldonza as Alfonsa, and Eman as Juan Manuel. You just know that we've got some inept CC writers when they don't even know who the characters are.
I agree that Pru must be behind the attack on Silvia.
I am enjoying watching Sev's facial expressions go from arrogant self assurance to doubt, to fear.
If anything, Cande is getting worse with her controlling ways, it seems to me.
Dom RULED last night with her interaction with Val, AND CANDE BACKED HER UP!!!
Thanks again, Sara. If it weren't for you and the other recappers, I think I would have stopped watching this by now.
David
Gobluefan, in the Spanish CC's, they were referring to Aldonza as Alfonsa, and Eman as Juan Manuel. You just know that we've got some inept CC writers when they don't even know who the characters are.
I agree that Pru must be behind the attack on Silvia.
I am enjoying watching Sev's facial expressions go from arrogant self assurance to doubt, to fear.
If anything, Cande is getting worse with her controlling ways, it seems to me.
Dom RULED last night with her interaction with Val, AND CANDE BACKED HER UP!!!
Thanks again, Sara. If it weren't for you and the other recappers, I think I would have stopped watching this by now.
David
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 11:43:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 11:43:00 AM EDT
Thanks, cathyx. I'll fix that when I get home today.
Diva - I think yesterday was #116. We skipped a number.
I blame it all on Univision.
Diva - I think yesterday was #116. We skipped a number.
I blame it all on Univision.
cathyx, that one's on me! I looked at a calendar and missed a pre-emption. We'll fix it going forward. There may or may not be an opportunity to go back and fix the previous ones.
I've seen some subtitles in the past that must have been computer-generated. They use the wrong definitions for certain words because of defaults and the spelling would make Webster and Johnson cry.
Getting back to Candela, the guilt-tripping due to health is a popular tactic of controlling mothers. In this case she's had a real accident that has painful results and isn't faking her pain. However, it is still inappropriate for her to do this to Cristobal because under other circumstances, wouldn't he be busy on the ranch?
Getting back to Candela, the guilt-tripping due to health is a popular tactic of controlling mothers. In this case she's had a real accident that has painful results and isn't faking her pain. However, it is still inappropriate for her to do this to Cristobal because under other circumstances, wouldn't he be busy on the ranch?
David, I agree on Cande, but it's almost predictable that the more she feels he is slipping from her control, the more desperate she will become. The whole suitcase episode the other night was almost scary to see that she can't let him go. But for years, he's all she's got as an excuse to wake up in the morning. Her fault, sure, she could have done more with her life and community, but she didn't. I beginning to think even if he had hooked up with Val and then said adios folks, off to live forever and ever in Spain, she would have freaked out or sold everything and went there too.
UA, my guess is we won't ever see a direct repercussion of Mari's doings in the past against Lola and E-man except that HOPEFULLY, she is treated like a pariah and left with nothing. I still have some horrid feeling that there will be some light bulb "I'm so sorry for being a brat all my life" and then she gets sweet Pato or a much better ending then she deserves. And I blame that on the fact she has what are regarded as the one set of decent parents and being they lost Lardo, can't have them lose Mari as a witch either. She's still on my dart board though.
TN writers have not and doubt will in the near future know that a smart, well functioning young woman doesn't have to get the 'prize" of one of the guys in the story who isn't really the perfect fit because well, doesn't every woman deep down just want a hubby and babies??? Maybe one day, but Sylvia is going to be teamed with someone, we can count on that. All clues are now pointing to Ren which I cry fowl because he broke it off with her even before really knowing Allie. Now all of a sudden she's the real thing? Yeah, right. Makes a good guy look like an emotional jerk and she comes off like, well...you know.
Daisynjay
Daisynjay
UA, my guess is we won't ever see a direct repercussion of Mari's doings in the past against Lola and E-man except that HOPEFULLY, she is treated like a pariah and left with nothing. I still have some horrid feeling that there will be some light bulb "I'm so sorry for being a brat all my life" and then she gets sweet Pato or a much better ending then she deserves. And I blame that on the fact she has what are regarded as the one set of decent parents and being they lost Lardo, can't have them lose Mari as a witch either. She's still on my dart board though.
TN writers have not and doubt will in the near future know that a smart, well functioning young woman doesn't have to get the 'prize" of one of the guys in the story who isn't really the perfect fit because well, doesn't every woman deep down just want a hubby and babies??? Maybe one day, but Sylvia is going to be teamed with someone, we can count on that. All clues are now pointing to Ren which I cry fowl because he broke it off with her even before really knowing Allie. Now all of a sudden she's the real thing? Yeah, right. Makes a good guy look like an emotional jerk and she comes off like, well...you know.
Daisynjay
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 12:40:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 12:40:00 PM EDT
Checking back in...hmmm ...I noticed that my last comment was under someone called "Soundsusan." Gee, how did I do that? Probably due to trying to type on my tablet while sitting on a balcony facing the Toronto skyline and trying to keep the Canadian Duck Toller away from my croissant.
I will not be able to watch tonight, so I will be anxiously awaiting the recap.
...still just Susanlynn
I will not be able to watch tonight, so I will be anxiously awaiting the recap.
...still just Susanlynn
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:19:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:19:00 PM EDT
Susanlynn --- Oh Toronto! There have been a couple of obituaries from Toronto, in the past week, that have "gone viral" down here, not to mention the raccoon memorial earlier this month. I ♥ Canada. ☺☺☺
Just finished the recap, Sara. I got a hint of your "just get it over with" attitude, but you didn't fail us. Thanks, amiga. Will be back after I read the comments.
BUT--
Did anyone else besides me wonder why Don Ant and Vero weren't at the clinica when they brought Eman in? The two of them had just been at the celebration party and were enjoying themselves, so it isn't as though they left SL or were hard to find. Maybe they were busy wrapping up QA, but that doesn't excuse them from being by the side of someone they really care about in Sombra.
BUT--
Did anyone else besides me wonder why Don Ant and Vero weren't at the clinica when they brought Eman in? The two of them had just been at the celebration party and were enjoying themselves, so it isn't as though they left SL or were hard to find. Maybe they were busy wrapping up QA, but that doesn't excuse them from being by the side of someone they really care about in Sombra.
Anita: I thought about the lack of Don A too but I took that as no one thought to do it. Cris has had minimal interaction with them as has Mel, and I'm guessing Lola wouldn't bother since she would rather Vero wasn't around. I'm hoping we see them soon, it only seems right. Frankly, they are the only people who have embraced that young man lately and that may help him. Would be selfish to leave those two out by the usual clan.
Daisynjay
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:37:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:37:00 PM EDT
Thank you Sara! Great, great recap.
(And if they match? Who cares? Chain of custody? Ever heard of it? Those bullets don't mean squat.) THANK YOU!!! How/Why did Ren not bring this up? Someone on the patio brought it up yesterday - why weren't the police informed when the cremation turned up bullets? I know, I know: Tighten beanie and proceed with caution.
I read Lola's comment as "I'm kind of embarrassed to talk to him. After the shove at the cantina when he didn't pay me any mind I realized 1) I don't know how to help him 2) I lost the privilege of trying when I believed Mari over him before. I lost his trust."...I'm giving her too much credit, aren't I?
I applaud Aldonza's efforts, but I'll admit that yesterday all I could think about was how I'd feel if I had to tell my nieces that their father, who died in 2012, had been murdered by their mother. Because she was protecting her lover. Who then raped them. And then pretending to be their father. In this situation, my brother is the deceased, not the murderer and yesterday I didn't think I could do it.
Today is a different story. If the girls were adults, I think I could tell them that especially if I thought they'd go to the lover themselves. But I thank God I'm not in that position.
Anita - Maybe no one told Don Ant or Vero?
(And if they match? Who cares? Chain of custody? Ever heard of it? Those bullets don't mean squat.) THANK YOU!!! How/Why did Ren not bring this up? Someone on the patio brought it up yesterday - why weren't the police informed when the cremation turned up bullets? I know, I know: Tighten beanie and proceed with caution.
I read Lola's comment as "I'm kind of embarrassed to talk to him. After the shove at the cantina when he didn't pay me any mind I realized 1) I don't know how to help him 2) I lost the privilege of trying when I believed Mari over him before. I lost his trust."...I'm giving her too much credit, aren't I?
I applaud Aldonza's efforts, but I'll admit that yesterday all I could think about was how I'd feel if I had to tell my nieces that their father, who died in 2012, had been murdered by their mother. Because she was protecting her lover. Who then raped them. And then pretending to be their father. In this situation, my brother is the deceased, not the murderer and yesterday I didn't think I could do it.
Today is a different story. If the girls were adults, I think I could tell them that especially if I thought they'd go to the lover themselves. But I thank God I'm not in that position.
Anita - Maybe no one told Don Ant or Vero?
My bad, Daisy, you beat me to it.
On another note: Cande is SuperCrayCray. I would be so beyond tired of her if I were Cris. I really wondered why he wasn't questioning her or anything as she laid there laying her guilt trip. I'm glad he didn't take it on and stay by her side all day, and maybe he was more concerned with finding Eman, but seriously, I want to here this:
Are you serious? You kidnapped my brother. You kidnapped a baby. You kept him from his mother, from his family. You hid him from me. You treated him like dirt under your feet. And for what? Because of something your husband and his mother did before he was born? That woman is dead. And you are still--STILL!-- punishing her children. Why? No, really, answer me: why?
Sputtering and silence.
And all the while my brother was begging for love and affection, the man that caused this whole mess was here, in this lap of luxury, still with you. And now you're here, surrounded by riches, with doctors waiting for your orders, servants to help with your every whim, and he's alone, suffering, and you STILL act like this? What is the matter with you? Emanuel shouldn't have to pay for our father's mistakes, or his mother's. If he does, then I hope God still listens to your prays because I can't imagine how high the cost will be that I have to pay for what you and my father have done.
On another note: Cande is SuperCrayCray. I would be so beyond tired of her if I were Cris. I really wondered why he wasn't questioning her or anything as she laid there laying her guilt trip. I'm glad he didn't take it on and stay by her side all day, and maybe he was more concerned with finding Eman, but seriously, I want to here this:
Are you serious? You kidnapped my brother. You kidnapped a baby. You kept him from his mother, from his family. You hid him from me. You treated him like dirt under your feet. And for what? Because of something your husband and his mother did before he was born? That woman is dead. And you are still--STILL!-- punishing her children. Why? No, really, answer me: why?
Sputtering and silence.
And all the while my brother was begging for love and affection, the man that caused this whole mess was here, in this lap of luxury, still with you. And now you're here, surrounded by riches, with doctors waiting for your orders, servants to help with your every whim, and he's alone, suffering, and you STILL act like this? What is the matter with you? Emanuel shouldn't have to pay for our father's mistakes, or his mother's. If he does, then I hope God still listens to your prays because I can't imagine how high the cost will be that I have to pay for what you and my father have done.
Ok, back.
On Candela divorcing Sev a long time ago. There may be various reason why she didn't. One, as I recall, was Sev sticking it to her that Las Animas was nothing until he took over management and brought in the horse business. That may have been very true. She may have been letting it go to rack and ruin. Two, it may have been in her tight-as-braids upbringing that if you married por la iglesia, you were married for life--for better or for worse and Sev was certainly THE worst--AND she thought she had him under control after the Roberta-Emanuel fracaso. But she traded avoiding the scandal of a divorce (in those days?, well, no, in Medieval Backwater Santa Lucia) and having to divide up the bienes for living "apart" from him, but "with" him. She knew she would always have Dominga, Melesio, Cris and the house, but that may just have not been enough.
Sara, teehee, I did notice the obscured fountain parts. I thought they were testicles rather than boobs. I guess that tells you where my mind goes (a Giant Italian David in the middle of Las Animas).
What Pru was talking to Val about in regard to Eman is that now he is a Mendoza and a likely better specimen if the Cris thing doesn't work out. Val shut down that line of talk immediately--especially when Pru referred to the Non-Mendoza escuincle she was carrying. She said Sev had shared with her that Eman was getting nothing.
Our David--"I am enjoying watching Sev's facial expressions go from arrogant self assurance to doubt, to fear." Isn't that the truth, though. He will probably blame it all going wrong on his phantom arm pain--or on Aldonza and PadreJ.
Doris--Cute story about your Chocolate Man. Aren't you glad you met your sweetie before Hershey changed the formulas and jacked up the prices?
On Candela divorcing Sev a long time ago. There may be various reason why she didn't. One, as I recall, was Sev sticking it to her that Las Animas was nothing until he took over management and brought in the horse business. That may have been very true. She may have been letting it go to rack and ruin. Two, it may have been in her tight-as-braids upbringing that if you married por la iglesia, you were married for life--for better or for worse and Sev was certainly THE worst--AND she thought she had him under control after the Roberta-Emanuel fracaso. But she traded avoiding the scandal of a divorce (in those days?, well, no, in Medieval Backwater Santa Lucia) and having to divide up the bienes for living "apart" from him, but "with" him. She knew she would always have Dominga, Melesio, Cris and the house, but that may just have not been enough.
Sara, teehee, I did notice the obscured fountain parts. I thought they were testicles rather than boobs. I guess that tells you where my mind goes (a Giant Italian David in the middle of Las Animas).
What Pru was talking to Val about in regard to Eman is that now he is a Mendoza and a likely better specimen if the Cris thing doesn't work out. Val shut down that line of talk immediately--especially when Pru referred to the Non-Mendoza escuincle she was carrying. She said Sev had shared with her that Eman was getting nothing.
Our David--"I am enjoying watching Sev's facial expressions go from arrogant self assurance to doubt, to fear." Isn't that the truth, though. He will probably blame it all going wrong on his phantom arm pain--or on Aldonza and PadreJ.
Doris--Cute story about your Chocolate Man. Aren't you glad you met your sweetie before Hershey changed the formulas and jacked up the prices?
cathyx-Thanks for the heads up. I fixed the episode number and noted that it was the US number.
Thanks everyone!
I'm finding myself pretty ambivalent about these Ultimas semanas. Maybe it's just the timing because I'm getting ready for the school year.
Thanks everyone!
I'm finding myself pretty ambivalent about these Ultimas semanas. Maybe it's just the timing because I'm getting ready for the school year.
Oh Sara, I love your Word Salad lines. With my deteriorating hearing, these telenovelas are becoming more and more like Word Salad every day.
Just felt rather glum about last night's episodes...no romance, Emmanuel still suffering, Adelina still pussy-footing and evading, Silvia savaged and seriously injured. Telenovelas are sometimes an escape from harsh reality, but last night this seemed just as grim as the metro pages of the newspaper.
Need to get the ball rolling towards some happy endings. Was cheered that Humberto sobered up and was able to help Emmanuel. I still have a soft spot for our dejected, disillusioned doc.
Other than wanting happy endings, my only other request is SARA, PLEASE STAY 12 YEARS OLD! YOU'RE SO MUCH FUN AT THAT AGE!
Just felt rather glum about last night's episodes...no romance, Emmanuel still suffering, Adelina still pussy-footing and evading, Silvia savaged and seriously injured. Telenovelas are sometimes an escape from harsh reality, but last night this seemed just as grim as the metro pages of the newspaper.
Need to get the ball rolling towards some happy endings. Was cheered that Humberto sobered up and was able to help Emmanuel. I still have a soft spot for our dejected, disillusioned doc.
Other than wanting happy endings, my only other request is SARA, PLEASE STAY 12 YEARS OLD! YOU'RE SO MUCH FUN AT THAT AGE!
I dearly hope we get something like that confrontation before this is all over. Candela needs to be told She Screwed Up Big Time. Losing Cristobal is the ultimate price.
As to the timing of the Ultimas Semanas, does anyone know when the next new Telemundo novela begins? Maybe Univision has chopped up a couple of episodes and done the extended thing to beat them to bringing in a new one?
As to the timing of the Ultimas Semanas, does anyone know when the next new Telemundo novela begins? Maybe Univision has chopped up a couple of episodes and done the extended thing to beat them to bringing in a new one?
hellashelle, you are my hero for that wonderful "should have heard" with Cris. I found myself frustrated to see him yesterday walking around with mom lovingly attached to his arm and his day before anger seemingly abated AGAIN. Over and over we have seen that he is presented with facts, and then something happens to either of his parents, and he regresses right back to the stay at home son trying to make peace with them. Ain't going to happen and if he would really look and listen, they aren't changing at all no matter what he says. heck, they don't even have remorse. I know, we're supposed to think he feels guilty over mumsy taking a spill, but you know what, she's fine. Achy, but if she's walking around and can get hair and makeup done and tolerate it, then she'll be fine. I was disappointed too.
"Losing Cristobal is the ultimate price." Might be on to something UA. The writers are just toying with usl, building up Cris' one after another revelation and then the ultimate shoe will fall. But still think it makes him look rather clueless now and a bit of a milquetoast.
Daisynjay
"Losing Cristobal is the ultimate price." Might be on to something UA. The writers are just toying with usl, building up Cris' one after another revelation and then the ultimate shoe will fall. But still think it makes him look rather clueless now and a bit of a milquetoast.
Daisynjay
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Hellashelle! at 1:52, had to stop reading comments and shout out from the Amen Corner, "PREACH, SISTER!" Yes! That would have been soooo satisfying to hear Cris say even half of that and you know what? It's STILL satisfying to hear you say it! Thank you!
JudyB, I fell ya:
Telenovelas are sometimes an escape from harsh reality, but last night this seemed just as grim as the metro pages of the newspaper.
Darn it! I couldn't BELIEVE that had happened to Silvia! It is, like, soooo uneccesary! She's a beautiful and brilliant legal eagle, fearless and assertive and they have to do something to render her helpless, possibly permanently impaired, screaming and crying in the middle of the town square! WHY? I just can't help she's being "punished" for all those qualities I just named oh, and on top of that DARING to make her own choices about her personal life instead of sobbing and and wallowing in envy and grief everytime Aldonza's lap dog (Renato) goes sniffing after her! Renato was a reall ass last night, yes, ass with no dollar signs! The nerve! He's pissed because he wants to keep Silvia as a spare just in case Aldonza goes running back to Cris again! This had better be minor and temporary and the perp better be punished or I'm gonna be ROYALLY PISSED!!!!
Telenovelas are sometimes an escape from harsh reality, but last night this seemed just as grim as the metro pages of the newspaper.
Darn it! I couldn't BELIEVE that had happened to Silvia! It is, like, soooo uneccesary! She's a beautiful and brilliant legal eagle, fearless and assertive and they have to do something to render her helpless, possibly permanently impaired, screaming and crying in the middle of the town square! WHY? I just can't help she's being "punished" for all those qualities I just named oh, and on top of that DARING to make her own choices about her personal life instead of sobbing and and wallowing in envy and grief everytime Aldonza's lap dog (Renato) goes sniffing after her! Renato was a reall ass last night, yes, ass with no dollar signs! The nerve! He's pissed because he wants to keep Silvia as a spare just in case Aldonza goes running back to Cris again! This had better be minor and temporary and the perp better be punished or I'm gonna be ROYALLY PISSED!!!!
tofie, I see your question about Renato being jealous over both Aldonza and Silvia and raise you one about why Aldonza gets to be jealous over both Renato and Cris AND gets to control the who/when/where of Emmanuel finding out about his bio-parents.
Lila, I'm with you on this re: Silvia "If they do, it will be a clear sign of misogynistic punishing of a smart, professional woman who actually does her job instead of giving the audience constant boob shots and upskirts!" I'm with you at the Royally Pissed Off table just for having her get messed with in the first place.
doris, I like your musical idea :D and your story about the chocolates!
Urban Anthropologist, in theory, yes, Cris would be busy working and woudn't have time to just sit in Cande's room doing nothing all day. He's been very iffy on his "work" for the entire show...he works when he's not feeling too angry at his parents, and the minute he is he doesn't work anymore. I started to find it annoying from a resource standpoint--how many hands will we have today to get the work done--but Mel's smart enough to not count on Cris. If he happens to want to work, cool. If not, that's ok, they weren't counting on him anyway.
re: the timing, edits, and Telemundo. They just started a new show on Tuesday, so I don't think that factored in to Uni's plans.
susanlynn, I hope you're enjoying Toronto, wannabe-croissant-thieving ducks notwithstanding.
HellaShelle, I can't see Cris ever asking his mom those questions, so I will have to settle for imagining what you've written.
Lila, I'm with you on this re: Silvia "If they do, it will be a clear sign of misogynistic punishing of a smart, professional woman who actually does her job instead of giving the audience constant boob shots and upskirts!" I'm with you at the Royally Pissed Off table just for having her get messed with in the first place.
doris, I like your musical idea :D and your story about the chocolates!
Urban Anthropologist, in theory, yes, Cris would be busy working and woudn't have time to just sit in Cande's room doing nothing all day. He's been very iffy on his "work" for the entire show...he works when he's not feeling too angry at his parents, and the minute he is he doesn't work anymore. I started to find it annoying from a resource standpoint--how many hands will we have today to get the work done--but Mel's smart enough to not count on Cris. If he happens to want to work, cool. If not, that's ok, they weren't counting on him anyway.
re: the timing, edits, and Telemundo. They just started a new show on Tuesday, so I don't think that factored in to Uni's plans.
susanlynn, I hope you're enjoying Toronto, wannabe-croissant-thieving ducks notwithstanding.
HellaShelle, I can't see Cris ever asking his mom those questions, so I will have to settle for imagining what you've written.
I've asked this before, but it was a couple of weeks ago and maybe someone knows now. Does anyone know what show is following this one when we're done in a few weeks?
Doris, I can remember touring the Hershey factory with my Brownie troop. The first ten minutes were like being in heaven, but the last half hour had me feeling ill. We went there last summer , but the tour is now in moving cars looking through big windows into the plant. I still love an occasional Hershey bar with almonds..better to ms than the priciest European chocolates. Yum
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: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:10:00 PM EDT
Kat...not ducks..a Canadian Duck Toller...Ruby , my daughter's dog. The breed is very popular here. They look a bit like small golden retrievers but with red fur like a Irish Setter and green eyes...verra cute dogs.
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:14:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:14:00 PM EDT
Susanlynn - I thought it was a duck, too! LOL
Hershey's probably put the windows up to keep people (like me) from jumping into the chocolate vats. (what a way to go!) I still enjoy a good Hershey's choc. bar over the pricey imports, too. Peanut M&Ms are my big weakness.
I am cracking up over Cande's black cervical collar. I've never seen anything but the standard Telerisa Horspittle-issue ivory. Leave it to Cruella to go all-out designer on us. Well, ivory is not her best color, since she is a "winter."
Hershey's probably put the windows up to keep people (like me) from jumping into the chocolate vats. (what a way to go!) I still enjoy a good Hershey's choc. bar over the pricey imports, too. Peanut M&Ms are my big weakness.
I am cracking up over Cande's black cervical collar. I've never seen anything but the standard Telerisa Horspittle-issue ivory. Leave it to Cruella to go all-out designer on us. Well, ivory is not her best color, since she is a "winter."
At least those are the promos running on Univision. They could change their minds a few days before like they did with La Gata.
I noticed in getting back into the bed last night, Cande's "collar" is actually the standard boring beige, but she has wrapped a black silk scarf around it to make it look fashionable and there was a small section of the beige showing. Only she could be in pain and want to look perfect and color-coordinated at the same time. Cracked me up when I saw that.
Daisynjay
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:37:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:37:00 PM EDT
Yeah. It will probably be ripe for editing. I'm not a Jose Ron fan, but the scenes I've seen make me want to see it. It's remake of a 1971 TN. The more I look into the new one and the old one, the more little nods to the original I see (ex-They show a clip of the B&W original on the modern entrada.) I like that.
"Aldonza gets to be jealous over both Renato and Cris AND gets to control the who/when/where of Emmanuel finding out about his bio-parents" Yeah, it really pisses me off too. Who died and put her in charge of everything
It's not like Aldonza hung on to the news for very long. Didn't we want her to tell Eman the truth right away? She did. She waited until the early morning after the day she found out, and let him have his celebration party instead of ruining it for him. Was she supposed to let those cowardly liars Hum and Adelina tell him? Or Sever? Other than Cris, there weren't really any other other appropriate truth tellers for that particular bit of news.
SARA, on this horribly hot afternoon--104 degrees, and no A/C in sight--your recap was like a refreshing breeze of...no wait. It was really more like that Jane Austen novel, "Snark and Sensitivity". Like that. Thank you so much for the great read! (I have not read the comments yet but am ready to dig in and enjoy the heck out of all the Patio musings for the rest of the afternoon.)
J in Oregon
J in Oregon
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 31, 2015 at 5:56:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 31, 2015 at 5:56:00 PM EDT
Not telling Em in the middle of the party is the one thing she did that took him into consideration. This wasn't just her news or just her secret, and she was telling select other people, but not Cris, who deserved to know just as much as she did. It bordered on careless, to just tell him out on the lawn like that, without Cris there, without Padre J or Don Antonio or someone he could perceive as being on "his" side. She just assumed he'd be thrilled to find out and didn't stop to consider his safety or his need for support. No, I didn't want her to lie, or keep it from him for an extended period of time, just to consider his needs. And for the millionth time...a mental health professional would have REALLY come in handy!
J in Oregon, you don't have AC? I never leave my house during the heat waves, except to teach jazzercise, and that's not airconditioned, oi!
5FT, I kept asking myself why she didn't just call Cris on the cellphone, it's like they forget that they have such modern technology in key times of the story. And why didn't they think to involve PJ when they saw that Eman wasn't taking it so well?
I don't think she thought he would be thrilled. In fact, that's why she didn't tell him when he was freed because she knew it would be scrappy news for him. She started by telling him the positive part of things, before telling him the worst part (his bio daddy) in order to cushion the blow. She told Renato, right after the shock of learning, and Lola and Padre shortly before breaking the news at dawn. Padre didn't advise her to wait for him. He encouraged her to tell Eman. Other than not telling Cris (and I'm not sure there wasn't some valid reason she couldn't get in touch with him that was edited out by Uni, because it was weird that everyone from Las Animas was at the party except Cris), I don't see anything selfish or wrong about how Al told Eman. Padre or Don Tonio being there would not have changed his reaction. In fact, it might have made it worse by giving more weight to his line of thinking that everyone knew and they were all just taking pity on him.
cathyx, I think, wasn't that the day she tossed off a "Oh, my battery ran out." But then, outside the police station, she was doing something with her phone? And the next thing they did was go back to the house for the party. Where presumably the phone charger lives. And there's a house phone.
I think the only reason Cris wasn't at the party was for the convenience of having him sleep in the stables to stop Sev from killing Solitario. Otherwise, it was weird for him to have been out there in the first place.
Eman ran off as soon as Al told him the news. Right after that Al told Cris, and then they began the search for him where they went to Padre J, Vero and Don Tonio, his favorite bar, the campo, Joaquin, and even the police before half a day had even passed.
5ft, clearly we are so overthinking this, lol.
Vivi, are you sure you're not on the televisa payroll? Or related to Gringo?
Vivi, are you sure you're not on the televisa payroll? Or related to Gringo?
It seemed to me like it took a ridiculous amount of time to get going on the search. But that was also the night that had some weird timing, with Sev needing what seemed like hours to drive into town and berate Humberto, while somehow Pru drunkstumbled her way to Las Animas on foot.
Yes, overthinking these silly shows is a bad thing. I brought up Gringo in my last comment because he never overthinks these shows and he's always gets on our cases for pointing out inconsistencies.
Ha! If Vivi were on the Televisa payroll, there would be no conveniently forgetting about plot points introduced early on and just neglecting to tie up loose ends! I'm not sure what job description that falls under, but clearly they don't have a Vivi...or they don't listen.
LOL. I will happily play the role of Gringo with this one. Maybe it just seemed like everyone was just hanging out, because the villains were so busy. But then they get to the police chief and he's practically rolling his eyes because they want to mount an Amber alert because a grown man had a hissy fit and has been missing a total of three hours.
Vivi, I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that!
Is this guy really the police chief? Isn't it weird that his job seems to be taking everybody's statements AND investigating everything AND running the police department? Hmmm...maybe that's another reason he's so cranky, overworked, and seemingly Incompetente.
I will cop to the tendency to analyze everything and be very critical, and I could try to say it's just a hazard of the profession, but really it's just the way I am. It happens to occasionally come in handy, but I'd probably do it anyway. It doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, and I'm all for something being unrealistic and fun over realistic and not fun. For example, I seriously don't mind that those bullets shouldn't be considered as evidence of anything, if it means Sev gets busted. I'm totally going to harp on it for being unrealistic, but I'll be cheering all the same.
Is this guy really the police chief? Isn't it weird that his job seems to be taking everybody's statements AND investigating everything AND running the police department? Hmmm...maybe that's another reason he's so cranky, overworked, and seemingly Incompetente.
I will cop to the tendency to analyze everything and be very critical, and I could try to say it's just a hazard of the profession, but really it's just the way I am. It happens to occasionally come in handy, but I'd probably do it anyway. It doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, and I'm all for something being unrealistic and fun over realistic and not fun. For example, I seriously don't mind that those bullets shouldn't be considered as evidence of anything, if it means Sev gets busted. I'm totally going to harp on it for being unrealistic, but I'll be cheering all the same.
5ft, you sound like me. And my overanalyzing drives my husband CRAZY!!! He always asks me, why do you care? And I have no answer.
Hellashelle, 1:52-As we say here in the south,
BABY,YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN IT!!!!!!!!
Why don't the writers think of stuff like this?
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BABY,YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN IT!!!!!!!!
Why don't the writers think of stuff like this?
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