Monday, July 25, 2016

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Silvana sin Lana, Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraíso, Señora Acero 3, & La Sombra de Helena: Week of July 25, 2016

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 12-2PM—Sombra de Helena
• 8PM—Silvana Sin Lana
• 9PM—Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraíso
• 10PM—Señora Acero 3: La Coyote

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
 
 

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Comments:
Silvana

Wow, things have been pretty quiet around here for the last few days. I'm assuming/hoping that now that new episodes will be aired tonight, we'll have more discussion of Silvana and perhaps one or both of the other novelas as well.

I've been thinking that it would be great if we could set up a schedule for recaps, at least for Silvana, since that's the one most people seem to be watching. I'm happy to continue to do recaps of the Tuesday episodes. When we were watching Eva la Trailera, both novelera and deb also wrote recaps. I'm hoping one or both of you may be willing to do so for Silvana as well. Novelera, you've often done them on Mondays. Are you planning to do one tonight? I'd also like to encourage other folks to give recapping a try. Any thoughts?
 

Silvana
Juanita--I've just watched the first three episodes of Silvana. Yes, it's so predictable, but if I can liken it to Summer Reading for the Beach, it'll be fun. I'm sort of eyeing it as a sequel to Marido en Alquiler. I'm glad Maritza has dialed back the screaming. I really am enjoying her portrayal of Silvana.

You are doing a great job recapping. Thank you. Later on, once Un Camino is done, I might volunteer to do a recap once in awhile.

Juanita, I never considered Reina de Corazones a comedy, but it was a FARCE of the FIRST ORDER and a send up of all police-action-murder-mysteries with lots and lots of dead bodies and, of course, who could forget the Injecto-Death 3000? Juan Soler was brilliant in his interpretation of Victor.
 

Silvana

Yes, I'll do a recap tonight.
 

Silvana

Many thanks, Anita, for your helpful and interesting remarks about Silvana. I especially liked the comparison to beach reading.

And I guess you're right about Reina de Corazones, though it was consistently a hoot, and thus for me it qualified as a comedy. I agree, though, that "farce" is a more accurate term.

I'm delighted to hear that you may be able to do some recapping once Un Camino is done!
 

Silvana

Many thanks, novelera. I love your recaps!
 

SILVANA SIN LANA – LUNES – PARTE 1 DE 3

After her unsatisfactory conversation with Majo, her spoiled eldest, Silvana goes out onto the balcony and, of course, Manuel is already there. She tells him she got a job with Rafael, the attorney he met when they were working out the issues of the accident. She apologizes for causing him a problem with his girlfriend.

Silvana goes on to put her foot in it big time. She tells Manuel she doesn’t want Majo going out with Vicente because her daughter is naïve and from otro ambiente [a different environment]. Whoa! Manuel is insulted and tells her that their “environment” is very healthy and that SHE should prohibit her daughter from being around his son. He goes inside.

We see that the three boys share a bedroom. So here’s what I think: each building has three bedrooms. The adults have their own. In Silvana’s house the third bedroom is for Trini. And in Manuel’s house the third bedroom is for Lucha, the only girl. Anyway, the older boys are watching soccer and keeping Pedrito awake. He leaves to get in bed with his father.

In his bedroom Vicente texts MJ and she texts him back. He says that he’s more than happy to put up with the odd slap to get the kisses. She laughs but says she feels badly about the kiss because of her boyfriend.

We then see a sweeter side of Majo. Lupita is nervous and can’t sleep, so MJ lets her little sister climb into bed with her and is very affectionate. Lupita wonders why no one talks about her father. She still doesn’t know what he did.

Chivis is getting ready for work, trying on a bunch of shoes. She finishes off the “uniform”, which is a black suit, with a bright scarf. Angie tells her that she looks great and will learn her job quickly.

Chivis arrives at work and asks for Rafael. Apparently this show can be sub-titled “The Telenovela of the Mean Girls” because the three other secretaries are insufferable. When she announces she’s going to be Rafa’s secretary, one of them tells her she looks like an airline hostess with the scarf on. They delight in telling her she doesn’t have an office; she has to sit with them. Rafa arrives to take her up to his office. The bitchy office workers decide she’s his lover. Apparently he’s done this before.

Angie is sitting quietly outside reading a book when the horrible Margarita starts taunting her, wanting to see the book. When Margarita asks if Angie thinks she’s better than them, Angie gets a little of her own back. “If you think I’m a better person because I was born in a more beautiful place, or because I eat organic and you eat fried food or because I’ve been all over Europe and you’ve not even left this country, well… Margarita grabs her book and apparently finds a picture inside it of Angie as a chubby child. This delights her and she also says that her father must be a moranito since he’s not in the picture.
 

SILVANA SIN LANA – LUNES – PARTE 2 DE 3

Angie tells Margarita she’s a coward. The next time she wants to mess with her, try it without a crowd of other students. They start to fight. Jorge pulls Margarita off. But the principal has seen the fight and orders them both to the office. Margarita starts crying and saying she can’t walk for Jorge’s benefit, even though she looked like she was getting the best of it.

Vicente tells his father he needs to get Silvana to pay for the truck repair because they’re losing business not having it. Apparently Stella does nothing at all except listen in on every possible conversation Manuel has. He tries lying to her, saying a very old woman ran into his truck. When he gets a call about going to the school about the fight, she tries to keep him from going. OK, why does he put up with this creature?

We see Silvana struggling on her first day at work, not really knowing how to operate a copier. She gets the call about Angie. One of the Mean Girls tells her there’s no cell phone use during work hours [really?]. Silvana loses it. She tells them to stay out of her business. And that she can be very nice when she’s being nice, but when she’s bad, lethal.

Pedrito is doing his homework when Stella shows up, kisses him effusively and gives him a gift. He looks like he’d like to wipe the kiss off his face.

Oh boy! Andrés has come to the big house in Coral Gables with a bouquet of flowers. He calls MJ, who sulks some and makes a crack about Lucha. [I hope they’ll break up soon so I won’t have to hear all the “Baby Boos”] She tells him she’s at home. He tells her he has a surprise for her (the flowers). Just then some prospective buyers come out gushing about the house. Andrés finds out from the realtor that the house fue embargado por el banco. [This is a new word for me. I’m only familiar with the English use of embargo. Upon looking it up, it apparently means a seizure in Spanish.]

Manuel comes home and finds Stella and Pedrito playing with her gift, a train set. Manuel is annoyed. He sends Pedrito back to do his homework and asks Stella why she didn’t let him know she was coming. It’s clear he feels invaded. Jorge comes up and spills the beans about Manuel going to the school in the morning and about Chivis'daughter being involved.

Silvana tells Rafa she’s worried about all the things she’s unable to do in her job. He gets too close again and tells her she’ll be fine. He says he has a surprise for her. He gives her some money after only one day’s work. She refuses a couple of times, but he guilts her with the children. After she leaves with the envelope, he dances around the office.

Silvana comes home very tired. All Trini wants to know is if she had to serve coffee! She begs her daughter not to tell anyone what she is doing.
 

SILVANA SIN LANA – LUNES – PARTE 3 DE 3

Just as Stella is making herself very unattractive rattling on about Silvana to Manuel, who should knock but Silvana. She says she’s come about the meeting. Stella: “Yes, about yoru daughter being suspended from school!” Before finally taking her gum-chomping hindquarters out of there, she kisses Manuel passionately in front of Silvana.

He makes a joke about it being a good thing she didn’t bring her purse because of how dangerous the neighborhood is. And he also says he’ll have to charge her for the problem at school. When he sees she believe him, he tells her he was only kidding.

Stella waits outside for Silvana. She tells her she’s loaded with problems, like a black cloud over her head. Silvana tells her she doesn’t mean to cause any problems; after all, she’s a married woman. Stella laughs and calls her a liar. She says that Manuel told her that Silvana’s husband abandoned her, and that he tells her everything. Her parting words: ¡No me rayes el cuaderno poque tengo las hoyitas bien contadas! [Don’t scribble in my notebook because I know exactly how many pages there are. This is a new one. I suspect it means don’t sleep with my man.]

Later Stella tells Pancho that Silvana acted all cool but she knows her darts hit home. She tells Pancho and Dominique that Silvana isn’t pretty; she’s just a bag of bones.

It turns out Margarita’s grandfather is Benito, the baker. He’s come to plead for Margarita at the school, and he also asks for mercy for Angie because of the fire that burned down her home. Silvana is aghast, asking him if her mother said that. Both girls are allowed to return to school, but one more incident and they’re out.

Angie tries to get MJ to stir her stumps and help around the house. She finally orders her to clean the bathroom.

On campus Andrés rushes to catch Lucha. Sensing her reserve, he asks if she’s angry with him. He apologizes for MJ’s behavior. She tells him it’s better if they don’t spend much time together, just behave as professor and student. When he wonders why, she tells him that his girlfriend keeps bothering her. He says that the reason he called her yesterday was to ask her if Majo is really her neighbor.
 

SILVANA

My first experience of telenovelas was Reina de Corazones, which was a HOOT, so this seems a little tame for me so far. Almost like it is made for teens..?
Mean girls is right... With Margarita definitely taking the trophy.
 

SILVANA

Just watched the rest of last night's episode.
If Mañuel is the equivalent of the head of the PTA (??) why would he have to arbitrate at a meeting between the parents of two fighting pupils? Didn't get that part.
Stella talks faaaar too quickly for me, so I'm very grateful for the recaps here. Pedrito wiping off her kiss was so cute and realistic!
With the wall between the boys' and girls' bedrooms being wafer thin, m surprised the girls didn't knock n it to tell them to turn down that soccer game...I certainly would have! MJ's bed snuggle with her wee sister was really sweet. She may be an inveterate snob, a lazy student and a grossly suspicious novia, but at least she apparently does have at least one redeeming quality. Funny that she's so jealous of Andres and the vecina when SHE is the one who was kissing the boy next door.
 

Silvana

Thanks very much, novelera, for this terrific recap! You're right, this novela should really be entitled "The Mean Girls." Sigh.

As always, I appreciated your including some Spanish, and esp. your translating the phrase ¡No me rayes el cuaderno poque tengo las hoyitas bien contadas! I have a question about another word you included: what does moranito mean?

Rafael's doing a little victory dance in his office after Chivis leaves epitomizes one of the things I like least about this novela. It's so absurdly unsubtle.

Wow, Stella really got on my nerves last night. Does she ostensibly have a job at the Fish Market? You're right, all she seems to do is listen in on everyone's conversations. I was perhaps most annoyed with her in the scene with Pedrito, barging in, interrupting his doing his homework, kissing him, etc. I was frankly disappointed that he liked the gift (which seemed too big to have fit in the box it came in). Probably my favorite phrase of your recap was "her gum-chewing hindquarters." It's so wonderfully suggestive of her crassness (though the image it brought to my literal mind was...oh, never mind :-) ).
 

Silvana

Two more thoughts about last night's episode. I was happy (and a little surprised) to see MJ respond so decently to Lupita. As Jude Gray said, it shows she has at least one redeeming quality. I guess she'll probably come to have some more, since it's likely she will be one of the people who have a Good Outcome at the novela's end.

Also, that train set that Stella gave to Pedrito looked pretty expensive once it was set up. I'm surprised she could afford such a gift. (Or did she send Dominique out to buy it and then have him pay for it? Though he, too, doesn't give the impression of being all that well off.)
 

Silvana

Juanita, moranita is a typo! I meant to say morenito, which makes Margarita SO despicable. She said the photo she was dancing around with did not include Angie's father because he's very dark. This usage of moreno, morena, morenita, etc., is somewhat confusing. I don't think she meant that Angie's father is African American, just that he's got a lot of native american in him. Sometimes a man will call his girlfriend, affectionately, morenita, if she has dark hair and eyes and a larger dose of native american genes than he does.

Margarita's referring to Angie's father that way was meant to insult her and reduce her in the eyes of the little circle of Mean Girls and at least one Mean Boy.

Anyway, I could be all wet about this. So if anyone understands Mexican and/or Mexican American racial views better than I do, chime in please.
 

Silvana

Many thanks, novelera, for clarifying moranito. Yes, morenito makes a lot more sense, especially as you have explained it.
 

SILVANA

Awkward thought ... If Chivis and Mañuel get together, as is hiiiighly likely I'd guess!, then wouldn't all their kids be a merged family?
So the budding romances between M's sons and C's daughters would just be.... Squick :-/
 

Silvana. Excellent recap, novelera. I love Majo for María José, but wouldn't it be "maja," since she's a girl?:) Majo/maja has a meaning in Castilian Spanish--it can mean pretty, elegant, but also a bully--very fitting for MJ. Totally agree with you about losing the "Baby Boos"when Andrés and MJ break up. ¡Qué alivio! Also totally agree with what everyone has said about mean girls. Margarita is completely insufferable, and in my experience of watching secretaries come and go in our department, usually people are more than willing to help a new co-worker learn the ropes. OTOH, Silvana knows nothing and could really use a quicky class in computer skills for offices. Not to mention, given the history of that office, there seems to be a tradition of privileged secretary/mistresses, which Silvana knows nothing about. The actor playing Rafael does a great job of looking predatory--it's the eyes, as well as his happy dance. Stella does seem to have won Pedrito over with the train set--but man, Manuel comes across there as the stereotypical Hispanic patriarch--He Who Must Be Obeyed. I had a colleague who was half Cuban, half North American and who had tons of funny stories about the difference in child-rearing philosophies between Anglos and Hispanics. And, on a final note--Trini is such a caricature!
 

Silvana. Just a weird aside. I was shopping at a supermarket on Sunday and one of my fellow shoppers could have passed for Silvana's twin! 40-something, very slender, long blonde hair, nearly identical features, and dressed in some very elegant capris and long sleeved, long top. I did a double take. Maybe it means something cosmically, but I doubt it.
 

Silvana: The red-haired actress was previously on "Quiero Amarte".
 

SILVANA:

Thanks so much, Novelera! Since Esclava ended and Yago is on late, I now find myself grazing during primetime-- flipping back and forth between shows. This tn isn't hard to follow while doing that because it's very predictable. But it's very cute. I like it, but the plot's going to have to get a bit more complex to hold my interest.

It is interesting seeing Marimar Vega (Stella), sister of Zuria Vega (Telemundo protagonist) play this kind of villainess-lite role, when she has been playing the lead protagonist in Azteca tns for years. I hope she feels the jump to the US is worth it.

Love the cuaderno saying. Going to have to remember that.

I did chuckle when one of Stella's gay roommates (?) said "Bye, Felicia!" when speaking about Chivis. It's such a U.S. Black urban slang thing to say, that I wondered how they would possibly translate for markets outside the U.S.
 

Silvana

SpanProf, Majo is what they’ve called María José several times, so that’s what I used a couple of times.

I disagree about Manuel’s insisting on the homework being a sign of stereotypical Hispanic male behavior. To me it represented only good things about Manuel. Despite running a business and raising four kids without their mother, he wants the best for his children. He’s insisting on their homework being done before they get to play around. To me this means that he wants the best for his children, that they excel in school and get into college. It’s unclear whether Vicente went to college before working in his father’s business or whether he just wasn’t interested in higher education. I don’t remember any comments about Vicente’s having gone to school.
 

Silvana

Does anyone know when the latest episodes are posted on the Telemundo Now app site or the Telemundo web site?

I can get Telemundo on my local off the air station, but the signal is so weak that it fades in and out. So, I rely on my Roku and the Telemundo Now app to view the show. As of yesterday, it was only up to episode 4.
 

Silvana

Gobluefan, in the past, the Telemundo site has had the current episode up at about 8 am (Eastern time) the next morning. However, I think at least once when I took a look at about that hour, it claimed to be showing the current episode but what came up on video was the previous one. I just checked now (~3 pm) after reading your message, and what's showing is indeed last night's episode (i.e., the current episode.). So what I experienced a few days ago may have been just a momentary glitch.
 

Silvana. Yep, novelera, Majo is a nickname for María José. I was just riffing on its appropriateness/possible double meaning--probably not intended by the writers. :)
 

Silvana

I haven't had time yet to watch Monday's episode, so thanks for the recap! I thought I saw in the captions that someone called Don Benito abuelo last week but I didn't catch that it was Margarita.

I am already annoyed with Margarita, Stella, and Majo. They can be pretty awful! It's interesting how Andres & Lucia and Majo & Vicente are shown together in the entrada in different scenes, yet Jorge, Angie, and Margarita are together in one scene. I hope Jorge dumps Margarita soon because she is the WORST.

I've noticed that sometimes there are mistakes with the episodes on telemundo.com (like uploading a previous episode instead of the correct one, which happened last week), but now.telemundo.com usually doesn't have the same problem.


 

I'm coming into this one a little late, but early enough to figure out most People. Except. Is Andres really worth keeping around? The flowers were nice, and he seemed reasonable when talking to Lucha, but that BabyBoo thing has got to go.

I have to admit that I thought the same thing as the Mean Girls: She looked like a flight attendant. A very put together and professional flight attendant who didn't deserve their scorn on the very first day.

Kelly
 

Silvana

Tonight's recap will be posted sometime tomorrow morning.
 

Silvana--
Novelera--I got to watch last night's episode this afternoon while I was ironing, but am just now getting around to thank you for the recap. I, too, thought the train was a bit over the top as a gift--and she had none for the other children, but, what 10 year-old wouldn't like an electric train---30 years ago. Nowadays, wouldn't they rather have a new video game?

What are the girls going to think when they discover Jorge has been peeping at them through the hole in the wall. That was the only thing I didn't like and hope they don't take it too far. Out on the balcony, I'm ok with that. Texting after lights out, ok, too.

I think Manuel is being rather generous with Silvana about paying him back for the damage to the truck and the loss of the whole shipment. It wasn't totaled, but I'm sure his bank account isn't too plump that he can wait for very long. These small wholesale/retail food market stalls operate on a very tight margin. Anyway, I expected him to keep hounding her. Instead they had a tell-all session in the rental truck and everything is hunky-dory. I wanted to see them at odds for a few more episodes before they started to get to know each other. But--it's summer "reading" and the thermometer is in the upper range.

I'll keep watching, though. (And I wish Jorge would lose his odd haircut, but that's just me.)
 

Sin Senos si hay Paraiso

words to the theme song,

La Raya
Nicolas Tovar, Robert Taylor

encerrada para que no supieras nada
para que nadie te tocara, ni te oliera, ni te mirara
el segundo en el que comprendes el mundo
en el que decides tu rumbo, como si nada
cruzas la raya, la raya
Hey la Raya voy a cruzar, se acabo la oscuridad
mis ojos saben volar sin ver
Hey la Raya voy a cruzar, prometo que lloraras
por la herida sangraras
Hey nina no te equivoques
no quiero tu maldad no me provoques
prefiero que tu magia me sorprenda
sin quitarte las prendas

 

Sin Senos

there are a lot of reasons not to like this story but I'm intrigued, and I love the Colombian touch.

the story in a nut shell,

in the beginning Diablo (a new actress for this one) betrayed Catalina sr. and married her narco man, then betrayed him and got all his money, but he had been married to Cata and never divorced, so Cata's family has a claim, so la Diabla wants them gone.

trumped up charges caused our 4 good guys to get arrested and all sent to different prisons, none knowing anything about the other.

at Cata's prison the bad girls and guards are being paid to ruff her up, but there is a good girl there who tells her to be tough and they will back her up, so tonight Cata kicked ass, but alas the guards threw her in solitary but first told her her parents died in an accident, wow, but a friendly guard told her they were goofing on her, and when she gets out the good girls are going to burn the place down.

at Hernan's prison his mom gave her house to the local grocery/loan shark for money for a lawyer, but alas the lawyer gets a death threat against his family and backs out.

at Hilda's prison she gets a crooked public defender asking her to plead guilty for a lesser sentence, (Catherine Siachoque is a most amazing actress, her eyes sparkle when she cries, and here she is the most loving mother, honest person ever) she won't lie, and when later another Diabla yes man offers to buy her house which is totally destroyed, she turns him down.

at Albiero's prison, the crooked public defender convinces him to plead guilty so Hilda and Cata get set free.

ah but when Cata was at the hospital she spilled to the doc who wants to help, a female moto sicario puts 2 bullets in him, after he has talked to a friend (Erick in "Bajo el mismo cielo") who is a, thats right, journalist, who vows to avenge his friends death.

 

Acero

this is a "Bajo el mismo cielo" story told by another author, Daniel (Rodrigo, now a good guy border guard) hovering about Vicenta (not Adela), never a dull moment.

 

SILVANA SIN LANA - MARTES - Parte 1 de 3

Andrés asks Lucha whether Maria José [MJ] is her neighbor. Lucha doesn't want to get involved in a dispute between the two of them. He persists, says it's very important that he know. She says again that she doesn't want to get involved, and tells him that MJ threatened her at the door of her house, and he can draw his own conclusions.

Silvana talks with Manuel after the school hearing. She's embarrassed, especially for the lies that her mother has been telling about their house in Coral Gables burning down. Manuel is very understanding and says Trini probably said that because that explanation is more presitigious (más caché) than the truth. Silvana then asks Manuel why he told his novia that her (Silvana's) husband had abandoned her. He's surprised, and Silvana tells him that Stella was waiting for her when she left Manuel's house. He tries to offer an explanation but finally apologizes. Silvana then says how grateful she is to him and gives him her car keys, since it was her fault that he's been without a car. He points out that if he uses her car, it will smell of fish. That doesn't matter, she says.

Trini leaves the house in what looks like an attempt at disguise. She's wearing sunglasses, has a kerchief over her hair, and looks around nervously before starting off down the street. As she's walking away, Andrés drives up and says to himself, "Trini?"

Trini comes to Don Benito's bakery. He asks why she seems so angry. She explains that his granddaughter was in a fight at school with hers. They argue about which girl was at fault, each blaming the other's nieta. Trini leaves in a huff. He tells his granddaughter, Margarita, that he is very disappointed in Trini, that he had thought she was a person of refinement (finura). ¿Finura?, responds Margarita, and she puts her finger in her mouth as if to throw up.

MJ is very reluctantly cleaning the toilet. It's clear she has never done anything like this before and hopes never to do it again. Her work is interrupted by a text message from Vicente, showing three selfies. She sends back one of her looking disgusted. She then tries to phone him and gets an automated message saying that the phone service has been stopped.

Manuel is driving Silvana's car; she's in the passenger seat. He is unfamiliar with the car's various controls and starts the windshield wipers without intending to. Silvana reaches over to show him which control he should have used, and her hand touches his. He tells her that she has taken advantage of the situation to touch his hand. She protests that that's not the case, that her touching his hand was unintentional. He says that nothing in life is unintentional. [This seems a bit too philosophical for the situation, but I suspect that it may come into play again later.] His phone then rings. He looks at it but doesn't answer it. Silvana says, "If I were you, I'd answer it."

The scene shifts to the Fish Market, where Stella is upset that Manuel isn't answering his phone. Soon afterward, he arrives in the car Silvana has lent him. He first tells Stella that he bought the car, but when she asks him why he's lying, he admits that his neighbor has lent him her car while his is being fixed. What are you hiding, Stella asks. He says that the neighbor is the one who hit his car.
 

SILVANA SIN LANA - MARTES - Parte 2 de 3

Stella is clearly not pleased that Manuel's attractive neighbor has lent him her car. He tries to assure her that he cares only for her (Stella). Te quiero mucho, he tells her. He then says something that I don't understand: Dondé quiera que le firme pa' que esta tranquila. I took this to mean "Where do you want me to sign so you can be happy?" Stella apparently understands it the same way. She excitedly asks him "Are you proposing?" He says no no no, but she launches into a discussion about the wedding, a wedding dress, etc. etc. He then tells her that they don't have to marry to be happy. [So then what did his question mean?]

Silvana rushes in to work a bit late. Rafael asks her to come to his office. She apologizes for being late, and starts to explain. He says next time, please call me. He mentions that she seems a bit happier than before. She says she feels calmer, because little by little, she's working things out. He starts to get a bit more personal. She says he's a good friend, and then tells him she has to go to work, she has a lot to do.

At the charter school, we see Lupita again in her old school's uniform [why?? surely she must have some acceptable ordinary clothes to wear] and -- surprise, surprise -- she's again in tears. The kids make fun of her uniform, and no one wants to be her friend. Jorge comes to her aid, and he and Pedrito walk home with her and Angie. Trini thanks the boys for their kindness as she hastily pushes them out the door. After they're gone, she expresses her displeasure that Jorge has referred to her as abuela and has assured her that if they need anything, just "give a yell" (le pega un grito), a clear sign in her eyes that he is lower class. She tells Angie that she should make it clear to him that "The Lady and the Tramp" is only a story for children (aclarale que la dama y el vagabundo es nada más que un cuentito de niños).

Angie is furious with her grandmother and goes upstairs to the bedroom. Trini follows her upstairs and continues to explain that Jorge no es de tu clase, that he lives in a horrible neighborhood, goes to public school, and lives in a duplex house. Angie points out that they, too, live in a poor neighborhood, attend public school, and live in a duplex. Ah, says Trini smugly, in our case this is only temporary. Your father will soon come back and take us out of this miserable situation and restore us to where we belong. Angie responds that her father is a scoundrel (un sinvergüenza). Trini leaves her room, and Angie is close to tears. Jorge watches through his spy hole.

Lupita goes next door. Pedrito is doing his homework. He tells her he has to continue with it, but she's welcome to stay. She does so. He mentions that her abuela doesn't like his family. Lupita explains that she (Trini) was raised in the upper class and is very aristocratic. Lupita admires one of Pedrito's drawings. She asks whether the figure near the top is the Virgin. No, replies Pedrito, she's my mother. Can't you see that she's in heaven? Lupita says that she misses her father, who is always traveling. However, "my mother says he thinks of me a lot and soon will be back."

Meanwhile, Silvana is struggling to get around on public transportation (although frankly the LA metro seems remarkably clean and uncrowded). She arrives home and goes to see Manuel. She wants to pay part of what she owes him. He says she should use the money to buy what she needs. Among her needs: a washing machine, a dryer, a vacuum cleaner. He suggests she should buy something for enjoyment, like a TV. She objects, but he tells her he's an expert on TVs and will go with her. They buy a TV.
 

SILVANA SIN LANA - MARTES - Parte 3 de 3

Angie is at Jorge's. She admits that Trini grew up as a princess and thinks she's a queen. "It's been hard for her to accept what has happened." Jorge asks what has happened, and asks why she cries when she speaks about her father. She says "You've never seen me cry." [Oops, spy hole alert]. Angie says she has to go, and kisses him on the cheek as she leaves.

Margarita tells her abuelo Don Benito that she fears Jorge doesn't like her as much as he used to, before that stupid snob (fresa babosa) arrived. "She's cultured, has traveled, and speaks more languages than I do." Don Benito assures Margarita that she is beautiful, smart, and strong, and that intelligence has nothing to do with speaking languages or traveling. Moreover, the fresa is just the novelty of the moment. And if not, there are lots of other attractive young men out there.

Angie and Lupita are very excited about the TV. Lupita is also thrilled that Silvana has bought her a uniform for her new school. MJ asks what good a TV is since they don't have cable. Angie suggests they contact Jorge, who can set things up so that they can use his cable connection. Trini is horrified.

Stella arrives at Manuel's as his family is eating breakfast. She kisses him, announces "I came for my shark," and kisses him again. Lucha looks as if she could throw up. [Me too]

MJ asks to borrow Silvana's car to go to the university. Silvana informs everyone that from now on, the car is to be used only for extreme emergencies. Gasoline is expensive. "I took public transportation and so can you." A very disappointed MJ leaves. Vicente spots her, asks whether she liked the photos he sent her. He offers to give her a ride to the university, it's on his way. She's delighted at not having to deal with public transport, even though his vehicle smells of fish.

Angie tells her mother, "I want to work weekends to help in the house." Trini, OTOH, says "Thank heavens I can play Candy Crush, otherwise I'm very bored" (me aburro como un ostra - literally: I'm as bored as an oyster). Silvana suggests that Trini try washing clothes. We see her next in the bathroom, using the toilet plunger to move the clothes about in the bathtub. She then sits herself on the toilet seat to get back to her video game. Don Benito comes by, and she enlists his help washing the clothes (though she doesn't want him to see Silvana's underwear). He suggests they use the secadora in his house to dry the clothes.

Outside the Fish Market, Pancho prays to a statue of the Virgin. He asks that Manuel fall in love with Silvana, leaving Stella for Pancho. When Manuel arrives, Pancho says "My heart tells me that she (Silvana) is the one you've been waiting for."

Silvana is in Rafael's office. He invites her to dinner. She tells him she can't, she needs to be home for her family. They're not used to her working yet. Her phone rings. "Antonio José?!"
 

Silvana. Excellent recap, Juanita! Loved your remark on Lucha's reaction to Stella's and Manuel's kisses, when she looks as if she's about to throw up: "Me too." Did anyone else cringe when Trini used the toilet plunger to agitate the clothes she was washing in the bathtub? OTOH, she is starting to help around the house. The other thing that bothered me a bit was Silvana's allowing herself to be talked into a big-screen tv. I realize there was a PSA aspect when Manuel said that poor people are entitled to some entertainment too, and that a lot of wealthy people criticize the poor if they buy anything other than the most basic food, clothing and shelter, but, really, her financial situation is still too unstable to indulge in big purchases--especially since it's likely her job with Rafael won't last long. It was great that she finally bought Lupita the correct school uniform. She should also have purchased an excel manual and a handbook on the latest version of microsoft word, etc. Don Benito actually gave some good advice to Margarita. And thank goodness MJ is going back to the university. Given the family circumstances, she should either do that or look for a job--she doesn't have Trini's excuse of age for not helping out financially.
 

Silvana

Oops, toward the end of Part 2 of my recap, I referred to the LA metro. I guess my mind is still thinking of the two previous telenovelas [Bajo and Eva], both of which were set in Los Angeles. But clearly Silvana is set in Florida. I know almost nothing about Florida geography and have no idea what metro we see, but it certainly is remarkably clean and uncrowded.
 

Silvana

Many thanks, SpanProf, for your terrific comments. I too wondered about the TV purchase, though given the pleasure it's like to give the family, and the fact that prices on mid-size TVs are coming down, it may be a reasonable decision. And she probably doesn't yet realize that her job with Rafael is likely not to last long.

As for the Excel manual and a handbook for MS Word, um, does she have a computer at home? It's not clear how much time she'd have to use the manuals at work or how useful it would be if she isn't able to reinforce what she learns. Hmmm...do I remember Angie working on a computer at home? Probably. It's hard to believe that their previous private school and, for that matter, their present charter school don't expect their students to have computers. Anyway, the more I think about it, the more sure I am that they must have at least one computer at home (though whether they have Internet access isn't clear). And with or without Internet access, your suggestion is a good one.
 

Silvana

In the very first episode, Angie came over to get the WiFi password from Jorge, since he offered to let her have it.

So, I have to assume that they have a computer (or at least a smart phone) at their new home.
 

Silvana. Thanks, Juanita. Yep, Angie was using a laptop computer. Also, Jorge had offered to help the family hook up to wifi for their phones, and I imagine that would work for their computers too. I don't know if the wifi access comes with the entire duplex, or if he's offering to pirate it, the way he was offering to pirate a cable hookup for them for the tv.
 

Silvana

Thanks very much, Gobluefan and SpanProf, for the info about the computers and Internet access available to Silvana and her family. I had forgotten about Angie's coming over to get the WiFi password from Jorge (duh...I even recapped that episode!). If in fact Silvana wants/needs to learn how to use Excel and Word, she should probably have her own computer, since Angie will probably be using hers when she and her mother are at home. That TV purchase is beginning to look a bit unwise even to me.
 

Silvana

thanks for the recap Juanita!

Miami has a fully automated monorail called the Metromover that serves some of the downtown area, and wow, I see that it is free.

Telemundo probably thinks everyone should have a tv, but I would think Chivis in her current situation would welcome not having one, getting her family busy doing other things, I also thought I noticed on the box it was a 4K tv, an ultra high definition extra expensive one, I would have gone with the washing machine.

hmm, I wonder if the untold problems of Antonio José will kick back on the family, after all Chivis will have to be happily unmarried at some point.

 

Silvana

Thanks, deb, for your very interesting comments. After reading your message, I googled for the distance between Coral Gables and Miami. It's only 5.9 miles, so it's probably the Miami metro that Chivis was taking. But as I recall, it wasn't free, it was $2.25, and she had to have exact change or a ticket. Perhaps that's yet another example of Telemundo's not getting stuff in the US right, in spite of being located in Florida. Actually, though, I wonder how the state of Florida and/or the city of Miami can afford to offer a free metro. Hmmm...perhaps the monorail you mention is in addition to or part of a larger metro system that isn't free?

And yes, I too am wondering how things will sort themselves out re Antonio José.
 

Juanita:

On Sin Senos: Diabla is the female version of Aurelio Casillas: More cunning, manipulative, backstabbing, sinister & downright evil.

This woman really wants Catalina's remaining family members exterminated!

 

Silvana

Juanita, your recap was outstanding – very complete! And thanks for translating caché which, of course, must be from the French cachet. But it baffled me last night, probably because of the way Spanish speakers pronounce “ch”.

OK, I know this is meant to be a comedy. But having to put up with two narcissistic personalities per night, Trinidad and María José, drives me nuts. MJ’s first response to the whole business about her mother buying a TV was wanting her cell service back. Her mother was quite right in her reproof: what she bought was for everyone. I’m OK with the TV purchase. These kids have been through quite a trauma, leaving their childhood home, a father MIA, bullying at the new school. They need distraction more than they need a washing machine or computer manuals.

And, Trinidad. Please. Juanita, I think you gave her more credit than she deserves saying that at least she’s helping. She put the clothes in the bathtub, gave a couple of perfunctory pushes, and then had Don Benito do the rest. Not to mention that she cadges stuff from the bakery without paying. I guess she thinks she’s like the Queen of England and the retailers will present bills to the palace.

I also cannot imagine how or why Manuel puts up with Stella. Even if he were madly in love with her, he’d be put off by her constant, stalking behavior. She apparently calls him over and over every time he isn’t right where she can see him at the fish market. She rants at every mention of Silvana. [Hasn’t anyone ever told her how much men hate possessiveness?] Now she’s showing up at his house anytime she feels like it. This time to take him to work.

I had a twinge of sympathy for Margarita last night. Maybe they’re going with better behavior from her from now on. So, where are her parents? Don Benito showed up for the meeting at the school, and was shown alone with her at the dinner table (or was it breakfast, can’t remember).
 

Silvana. Hi, novelera! Well, at least putting the dirty clothes in the bathtub is a start, :), especially if one considers that Trini has apparently done absolutely nothing in her entire life. And yes, it looks as if from here on out don Benito will be her lavandero. Hmm, is leaching off others a worthwhile social skill? :)
 

Silvana. And btw, I suspect that those underpants that Trini didn't want don Benito to see were hers and not Silvana's. They looked way too big for Silvana, and in fact reminded me of what my grandmother used to call her "drawers" back in the day when older ladies generally didn't do much of anything to try to keep their weight down.
 

SILVANA

I liked the 'Lady and the Tramp' reference. Something about Chivis and Mañuel reminds me f the Cybil Shepherd and Bruce Willis characters in 'Moonlighting' (I'm showing my vintage there!) She is so smooth, well-groomed and beautiful. He is a bit scruffy-looking but very twinkly and handsome.
Trini has to have a rude awakening at some point. She's unbearable. Hope that toilet brush had never been used.... Yeuch!
 

Silvana

SpanProf, I thought the same thing about the big granny panties Trini yanked away from Benito. Not Silvana's size at all!
 

Silvana

Many thanks, novelera, for your gratifying remarks about the recap and your terrific remarks about the episode. I'm delighted that you found the Spanish translation of más caché helpful. It was new to me, too.

You and I are definitely on the same page when it comes to Stella. Certainly there's something to be said for great sex, if that's what the draw is, but I'm not sure even great sex is worth it if you have to put up with someone so irritating, crass, and insensitive. (Did I mention that I don't like her?)
 

Silvana:

Juanita, I see that Stella is addicted to sex.
 

I just saw the episode. Did Trini ever pay for the baked goods she took from the bakery? I don't think she did, and Don Benito didn't seem interested in asking her.
 

Silvana

Since no one seems to have done a recap of last night's episode, I thought I'd put up a short listing of some of the things I remember, just to give us a jumping off point for discussion. If someone was in the process of writing a recap, my apologies for jumping the gun.

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Antonio José calls Silvana as she's sitting in Rafael's office. AJ won't tell her where he is. He assures her that he'll resolve all their problems very soon. [Hmmm...is he planning to kill himself? Seems unlikely, but...] Silvana tells him she wants nothing more to do with him. Rafael assures her that she is not alone.

Vicente asks Maria José to go out with him again. She tells him no, she hasn't ended things with her novio, he is the love of her life.

Rafael drives Silvana home, and he tries to kiss her. She pushes him away, but he persists until her Knight in Shining Armor, aka Manuel, appears, pulls the two of them apart, and slugs Rafael in the face.

Stella has once again changed the tone on Manuel's phone that announces a call is from her. The new tone: the wedding march.

Andrés insists on driving MJ "home." When they get to her old house, she claims she has misplaced her keys. Andrés then informs her that her game is up: he knows that the house has been up for sale for two weeks. He is annoyed with her for lying to him, but he assures her that she's not bad, she just does bad things. [Hmmm...ya think?]

Jorge almost gets caught looking through his spy hole. The resourceful Jorge covers up the noise by repeatedly yelling ¡Gol!, thus giving the impression that he's watching a futbol match and that that's why they heard him through the thin wall.

Lucha sees MJ kiss Vicente. She confronts him about this after he comes back into the house. She also tells him that she's been trying to reach their father but he isn't answering his phone. She's worried that something has happened to him. Vicente assures her that he's with Stella. We then see the three of them (Vicente, Lucha, and Manuel) at breakfast the next morning. She tells Manuel that she was worried when she couldn't reach him, and she asks him to let them know if he's not coming home for the night. Manuel tells her he's an adult. Jorge and Pedrito join them at the breakfast table. Pedrito too asks why Manuel didn't come home, and says he hates that corvina, which my dictionary tells me means "sea bass." He asks Manuel to return the train gift she gave him.

OK, gotta run.
 

Silvana. At last MJ knows that Andrés knows about her family situation and her new address. I hope their breakup doesn't take too long. Also, Manuel did exactly the right thing about Rafael--dragging him off Silvana, punching him so he couldn't try again and then starting to call the police. What Rafael was doing was attempting a sexual assault and he deserved anything he got. Also, Manuel is right that Silvana should be entitled to keep the advance on her salary as damages. It would certainly be cheaper for Rafael than going to jail for attempted rape (and no doubt being disbarred along the way).
 

Silvana. Good mini-recap, Juanita. You hit all the high points! My comments must have crossed with yours. It seems to me that Rafael was being so aggressive, that any bystander, let alone a friendly neighbor, would take what he was doing as attempted assault. I hope Rafael totally gets his comeuppance in this tn.
 

Silvana. I think Olivia Benson would approve of Manuel. :)
 

Silvana. In fact, it's kind of fun to imagine an interrogation of Rafael by a Spanish-speaking Olivia Benson. Law and Order SVU, here we come!
 

Silvana. It would also make a great PSA, and if handled well could be hilarious.
 

Silvana

SpanProf, you're right, I think we wrote our comments at about the same time. Yours told me something that apparently went right by me when I watched the episode: Manuel's remark about Silvana's perhaps being entitled to keep her salary advance as damages. And I enjoyed your thought about Rafael being interrogated by a Spanish-speaking Olivia Benson.
 

Silvana

thanks Juanita,

I keep wondering if the lawyer is also trying to learn where Antonio José is as he hovers close to Chivis when Antonio calls.

that was a pretty good flashdance Stella did to make Manuel want to spend the night.

I didn't catch the spanish word Pedrito used to refer to Stella, but I think it came out in english as fish face.

 

Sin Senos

Daniel (the newspaper guy) has alerted his colleagues around the country about his situation, who then start inquiring into the case, as he slips out the back to eventually find his way to Jota and his two friends (who I think are the daughters of the original Catalina's friends) and later interviews Hernan's mom as well.

Yesica with the help of the fiscal now has Albeiro's confession (based on the belief that Catalina and Hilda would be let go) and as he wonders how one would escape, his cellmate shows him a tunnel he has dug.

Daneila (Yesica's daughter) still wants Hernan to play with so Yesica arranges his release but first he has to sign something and is told Catalina will be released, and convinced she won't survive in jail, and we find out it is a confession that his mother is the leader of a gang.

and as Yesica tires of these people she orders the death of Daniel and Catalina, but they can't find Daniel and need to convince the 3 bad girls in the prison to do the job, who wonder if they too will be killed afterwards or be on the run, as all the other girls in the jail are ready to burn the place down as soon as Catalina gives the word.

 

Silvana

Thanks, deb. I too wondered whether Rafael was trying to find out where Antonio José is. And I'm glad you mentioned Stella's rather amazing dance. I'd forgotten about it, though how I could have done so I can't imagine.





 

Silvana

Juanita, you’re the best! Thanks so much for putting something up about last night’s episode. I’m pretty much done for the week as far as recapping. I have book group tonight and a dinner with friends a good bit away from where I live on Friday, so I won't be able to do one Friday.

Yes, it’s good Majo reluctantly ‘fessed up. She went so far as having Andrés drive her to her old house and try to pretend she couldn’t locate her house key, though, before he got with the¡Ya basta!.

So what I backed up and watched a second time gave me another reason to dislike Stella. She saw Manuel’s phone screen saying “Lucha” and then launched into her sexy undies dance. Of course, it was only Lucha wondering when he’d come home because Pedrito wanted his father there. But, for all Stella knew, one of the children could have been injured and on the way to the hospital in an ambulance!

It was a pretty agile and amazing dance, though.

I noticed the guy playing Dominique [really Domingo on his birth certificate, and Pancho keeps reminding him] was one of the best salsa dancers on the dance floor. I love to salsa dance, so I always enjoy a TN scene in a dance club.

Who’s Olivia Benson?

It’s kind of rare for a TN male protagonist to be having such a vigorous and enjoyable sex life with someone who’s NOT the one he’s going to end up with.
 

Silvana. Hi, novelera. Excellent comments. Olivia Benson is the police detective (now a lieutenant and in charge of the squad, I believe) on Law and Order SVU. She is played by Mariska Hargitay and is an advocate for survivors of sexual abuse as well as a tireless pursuer of sex criminals. She comes across as almost saintly and my husband has a major crush on her. :) Currently, she is raising Noah, her adopted son, whom she had rescued as an infant from a den of sex traffickers. The show has been going for about 18 years or so, and is one of those "ripped-from-the headlines" Dick Wolf police procedurals. I think the show has done a real public service in changing public attitudes about such crimes. Interestingly enough, Mariska Hargitay and her husband have started a foundation to offer support to the survivors of sexual abuse.
 

SILVANA

Rafael is such a slime ball. Yuck.

Has anyone else considered the iciness factor if the kids get together romantically and then their respective parents fall in love and set up home together...? AWK-ward!

I thought it was so gross and ungrateful of MJ to make an excuse to her pal about not really knowing V after he dropped her off at college.
 

SILVANA

That should have been 'ickiness' not 'iciness!'
 

Silvana

Thanks for the recaps, Juanita! My internet keeps going out and my niece and nephew are visiting, so I just now managed to get caught up.

Trini is so classist and annoying. I hope Don Benito can help her become a better person soon.

Chivis took the Metromover first, which connects with some metro and bus stops. I'm also surprised to find out it's free, but that is pretty cool! When she got on the bus, the ticket cost $2.25.

Angie and Jorge are adorable!

I don't find it weird when stepchildren are in a relationship They're not related by blood, and they didn't have a choice with who became their step-siblings. The boys and girls will probably continue to live separately even when Manuel and Chivis get together/married.

 

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