Thursday, February 23, 2017
Vino el Amor #81; Wednesday February 22, 2017: Vino el miedos (fears)
We begin where we left off yesterday with David and
Luciana in an embrace and kissing. Luciana tells him that she is very happy but
doesn’t want to cause him any problems. David says, “Well this is why we are
going to take things slowly and quietly so that we don’t lose everything that
we have worked for. But then DisGrace barges in. (Her presence always seems to
spoil the party).
She comes in with a binder containing information on the
presentation. DisGrace hypocritically says, “Oh David, it’s so nice of you to
include Luciana in the presentation.” Luciana says, “Yes, this is something we
are going to do together.” DisGrace goes on and on and then makes some sort of
comment about the olive tree stuff and says, “Are you going to be involved in
that too?” But Luciana says, “No, I’m an oenologist, and I will do my part with
the wine and whatever David needs me to.”
Perla and Carito argue in Juan’s office about how Miguel
is trying to help. Perla doesn’t care about what happens to Miguel and that
Juan wrongly accused him, she’s only in it to save her own skin of course.
Carito warns that the police investigation is closing in on the truth and if
they find it, both Perla and Juan will end up in jail. Perla gets very angry
and says, “Don’t say that! Everything will be just fine because Juan knows what
he is doing!”
At the Santa Barbara Vineyard, Miggy and Erica discuss
how things are going with Bodega de Los Angeles. Miguel says everything is fine
and that the detective is interviewing everyone again over there, but of course
Juan has not talked to the detective yet. He also explains how Juan and David
have been forever friends. Erica asks if he thinks Juan had anything to do with
the illegal immigrant trafficking. Miguel says, “Well yes, I sure have no
doubts about that because they guy will do anything for money! I just need to
find the proof of what he is doing.” Erica warns him and tells him that he
needs to be careful and that this could get very dangerous. Miggy says, “Don’t
worry, I would never do anything that would put you in danger. Relax, everything
will be fine.”
Fernanda and Bobby are in the family room while Bobby is
playing video games and Fernanda starts up about how awful it will be for their
dad to start dating and eventually have a wicked stepmother who will take him
far away from them. Fernanda says, “Surely Daddy will forget all about us.”
Bobby says, “How do you know all this will happen? Maybe he will meet someone
nice?” But Fernanda says, “Because I discussed it with my friends and they told
me how bad things will get. We have to do something to stop him.” Bobby wants
to know how they are going to stop him. Fernanda says, “I talked to Tía
DisGrace and she says we could watch and spy on him to find out where he goes
and who he talks to.”
Perla and Juan discuss how Luciana and Susan seem to be
involving themselves in this “immigrant” situation. Perla asks what they are
going to do? But Juan says they have to be careful and discreet and to trust
him. Perla just wants to know when he is going to take her away from all this!
A nice group gathers in Casa Robles for a wine
presentation that not only has David and Luciana as presenters, but also
includes Monster in Law Lillian along with her pride and joy, daughter
DisGrace. Fernanda is also a presenter (which of course looks very strange to
me because she is just a teenager and not old enough to drink). The group
samples the wines and listens to Luciana and her technical expertise. Fernanda
tells the group this is the best wine in the region. After the presentation is
over, Luciana gets ready to leave, but Dave asks her to stay just in case
people have questions.
In Downtown Sonoma, Miguel and Erica run into Juan in the
street. Mig and Juan start to argue and Juan makes accusations. Then Juan says,
“David is very glad you left his vineyard so you can now stay away from
Luciana.” He laughs wickedly but Miguel angrily throws a punch at him. They
have a streetfight and Miguel ends up with a bloody nose. They fight and throw
punches till the police arrived. (Meanwhile a crowd gathers to video the
incident and probably post to YouTube, LOL). Miguel calls Detective Torres to
make an appointment to see him.
After the wine presentation Lilian arrives at Gutierrez’s
office. The votes are cast and polls are closed and about to announce a winner.
Good news! Gutierrez wins for Sherriff! They go off to celebrate with Lil
claiming she is the “great woman” behind him.
Bobby and Fernanda come to their dad with their “concerns”
about his dating and having a girlfriend. Bobby says he does not want a new
mother. They are adamant about this (as DisGrace coached Fernanda) believing
that a new woman will be the worst thing for them and take their father’s
affections away from them. No matter how much David tries to allay their fears,
both Fernanda and Bobby fight him all the way. Fernanda says that when their
mom died, he became unavailable for them and they believe that will happen
again if he finds another wife. David tells them in not so many words that it
is wrong for them to not believe in him or support him and his feelings even
though he has been a very good father to them and he would never bring a bad
woman into their home. It turns into a shouting match between Fernanda being
very disrespectful to David.
Detective Torres arrives downtown to meet with Miggy and
Erica. Of course Mig can’t keep his emotions in check and his frustration with
Juan is overwhelming. He tells the detective that he believes that Juan is the
one behind the illegal immigrant trafficking, but Juan is blaming it on Miguel.
Erica and Miguel get back to SB Vineyard and Erica applies first aid to Mig’s
wounds. Mig is just pig headed because he thinks that he can resolve all the
issues, but Erica warns he’s putting himself at risk.
Gut brings Lil home and Marta is conveniently coming
downstairs. Marta congratulates him and tells him that she hopes he keeps his
word about helping immigrants.
David gets a call from Mr. Kent about the olive tree land
and they make an appointment to meet the following day.
Back at Juan’s apartment, Mark laughs at Juan getting
punched by Miguel. Juan thinks Mig knows too much and can put them at risk.
Juan tells Mark that it’s best that they get Miguel “out of the way.” Mark says
he is smart and got rid of all the evidence that would connect them with “el
coyote” because he smashed the cell phone and has used only cash. Juan still
says, “I don’t want to end up in prison.”
That evening Fer and Tano talk about her fears regarding
her father finding love again. (Of course she does not tell him that DisGrace
put all this in her head). Tano explains that it would all be good. “Look, my
dad has been alone a long time and I would be happy for him if he found new
love. My mother left a long time ago and he has every right to find someone who
he can be happy with.” Fernanda says, “I really don’t want a step-mother.” Then
Tano says, “Hey, I don’t see this as something bad.” Fer responds, “I just don’t
want another woman taking the place of my mother.” Tano goes on to explain, “You
have to calm down and support your father in his quest for happiness.” Fer
says, “Yeah, but he doesn’t need a woman to be happy.” Tano responds, “Yes, but
you want your father to understand about us being together.” Fer says, “Yeah
but that’s different.” (Isn’t it always when it comes to kids?) She goes on, “I
don’t want another woman stealing my father’s love from us.” But Tano goes on
to explain, “How can that be? I can’t ever see your father ever doing that because
he loves you.” She promises to think about it because Tano asked her to. She kisses
him and leaves.
In the employees’ home Luciana recounts to Marta how
David was having a business dealing but told her that he preferred to be alone.
Marta asks what happened. Luciana says she doesn’t anything except that David
was going to talk to his children about his dating, but now suspects things did
not go well. Lu is afraid now, if things did not go well that Dave is avoiding
her and not telling her what happened. Marta is not so optimistic and pretty
much says that sometimes things don’t go the way you want them to and you just
learn to live with whatever will be.
David stares at his ring muttering to himself, “What
shall I do?”
Next morning, Luciana is shopping in downtown Sonoma and
runs into Miguel of course. She asks what happened to him and he tells her
about the fight between him and Juan. He also tells her about his meeting with
Detective Torres and was told that without proof, there isn’t anything they can
do. Lu tells him that she is sorry he is going through this and would like to
be friends again because she misses him. He tells her that he still feels the
same about her and one of these days they will be together. But Lu doesn’t look
too excited about that.
Lu tells Miguel that he ought to tell David what
happened. She also tells him that she now knows she was wrong about Erica but
now she realizes that Erica has been good to him.
Sonia with Lilian in her room and Lilian is admiring
herself in a mirror (like she is the fairest of them all!) She is waiting for
Brian to pick her up. Sonia offers to make her a breakfast, but Lil points to
the glass of wine, like that’s her breakfast. Marta knocks on her door with a
cup of Boldo herb tea. [I didn’t know what Boldo was so I looked it up. It’s an
evergreen shrub that grows in Peru and Chile and its leaves are used in tea for
medicinal purposes. It’s supposed to help with digestion, constipation, liver problems, and
worms. LOL!] So Lil asks, “What kind of witchcraft did you bring to me?” Marta
says it’s for her bile and for her anger. They banter back and forth about
Brian having so many important things to do. Sonia takes the tea back to the
kitchen as Lilian will not drink it.
DisGrace barges in on Juan and makes fun of his bruised
face. She tells him about his stealing from David and he tells her about how
she killed David’s wife. Discussion centers around their criminal activities.
She leaves in a huff.
Later, Mig comes into the SB office where Erica is
working at the desk. He has the reports on how well the new wine is doing and
they talk about a name for the wine. Miguel suggests calling it “Erica”. She
laughs and says it should be something that talks to the people. Erica says “El
Amor” is a great name that Bodega Los Angeles uses, but they need to find a
name that signifies who they are at SB Vineyard. Erica finally comes up with a
perfect name, “Frontera” (means border). Erica explains it is a perfect name
because all who cross the border always come out ahead and fine. They hug over
the new name and celebrate.
At Juan’s apartment, he is looking for something and
finally finds a little box. Perla wants to know what it is, but Juan declines
to tell her except that it’s important and will fix a lot of things going on.
He says, “Let’s go back to the vineyard.” Perla can’t wait to throw things up
in Luciana’s face.
Last, Luciana gives David a gift of a leather band to remind
him of her when he looks at it. He says he needs no reminding, he thinks about
her day and night. But then brings up what happened with Fer and Bobby and that
they told him that they are not ready for him to date or have a new
relationship. He doesn’t understand what happened. She asked what their reasons
were and he told her that they don’t want to be alone and are afraid. But he’s
not going to let this get him down. He is going to fight for his love for her
with all his life.
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Really appreciate the retelling and always give us a deeper dive or two.
"It’s supposed to help with digestion, constipation, liver problems, and worms"
Couple folk continue to disappoint me and/or surprise me
Tano - You know how some people bring out the best or worst, well Fernanda brings out the best in the boy and he in her
Graciela - She is a perfect pitch person and in a social setting makes Luciana seem like a bluejean wearing vineyard worker that stumbled in by mistake. She's also stupid to trade barbs with Juan using true statements.
Juan - Though he is most deserving of a beat down he schooled the young rooster Miguel and shamefully admit I liked it.
Lilian - The woman is always on and able to put the sting in a stinger. She also did a respectable job at the investor gathering not slurring her speech after a gallon of wine.
Miguel - He lied to the detective last night. Miguel threw the first punch, attacking Juan, the messenger of an uncomfortable truth. Miguel is as delusional as Graciela.
Bobby - Usually the most level headed and fair of the TN his sister duped him and hope for a rebound tonight. The award last night went to Tano.
David - Crap or get off the pot. Unimpressed as I am with Luciana it is disrespectful to allow Graciela's intrusion right in front of the girl. It is also past time he introduces his children to the woman he plans to be their stepmother.
Luciana - 2 points for telling Miguel she was wrong about Erika and to be happy even if it doesn't include her. 1 point deducted for not telling him she loves David and 1 point deducted for giving David a leather bracelet when she and Miguel had matching color bandanas on their wrist.
"It’s supposed to help with digestion, constipation, liver problems, and worms"
Couple folk continue to disappoint me and/or surprise me
Tano - You know how some people bring out the best or worst, well Fernanda brings out the best in the boy and he in her
Graciela - She is a perfect pitch person and in a social setting makes Luciana seem like a bluejean wearing vineyard worker that stumbled in by mistake. She's also stupid to trade barbs with Juan using true statements.
Juan - Though he is most deserving of a beat down he schooled the young rooster Miguel and shamefully admit I liked it.
Lilian - The woman is always on and able to put the sting in a stinger. She also did a respectable job at the investor gathering not slurring her speech after a gallon of wine.
Miguel - He lied to the detective last night. Miguel threw the first punch, attacking Juan, the messenger of an uncomfortable truth. Miguel is as delusional as Graciela.
Bobby - Usually the most level headed and fair of the TN his sister duped him and hope for a rebound tonight. The award last night went to Tano.
David - Crap or get off the pot. Unimpressed as I am with Luciana it is disrespectful to allow Graciela's intrusion right in front of the girl. It is also past time he introduces his children to the woman he plans to be their stepmother.
Luciana - 2 points for telling Miguel she was wrong about Erika and to be happy even if it doesn't include her. 1 point deducted for not telling him she loves David and 1 point deducted for giving David a leather bracelet when she and Miguel had matching color bandanas on their wrist.
Thank you Cynthia!
1.) Congratulations on Brian Gutierrez winning the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office.
2.) Lillian doesn't eat breakfast ROFLOL.
3.) Tano trying to explain to FerBrat to let her father be happy.
4.) FerBrat & Bobby should've used wiretaps to follow David's every moves.
5.) Juan & Miguel fighting. Not that surprised, but I'm worried for Erika getting caught in the crossfire.
1.) Congratulations on Brian Gutierrez winning the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office.
2.) Lillian doesn't eat breakfast ROFLOL.
3.) Tano trying to explain to FerBrat to let her father be happy.
4.) FerBrat & Bobby should've used wiretaps to follow David's every moves.
5.) Juan & Miguel fighting. Not that surprised, but I'm worried for Erika getting caught in the crossfire.
Cynthia, this was exceptional.
The screen shots were wonderful and "Sonia with Lilian in her room and Lilian is admiring herself in a mirror (like she is the fairest on of all!)" was my hands down favorite line of many.
Thank you for translating Lil asks, “What kind of witchcraft did you bring to me?” Marta says it’s for her bile and for her anger” which has just made my day. Marta continues to irk Lilian and I for one, couldn’t be happier!
"
Well this is why we are going to take things slowly and quietly". Oh David. And you certainly have lived up to that assertion. Except for molasses, I cannot think of anything that moves slower than you. :)
So many anvils are swaying in the breeze: “Don’t say that! Everything will be just fine because Juan knows what he is doing!” Juan tells Mark that it’s best that they get Miguel “out of the way” and "he (Miguel) still feels the same about her and one of these days they will be together were but a few.
I really want to like Fernanda but "It turns into a shouting match between Fernanda being very disrespectful to David" is making it near impossible.
Luciana obviously cares for Miguel and misses and cherished their friendship. tofie, I was impressed with the bracelet until I read "...1 point deducted for giving David a leather bracelet when she and Miguel had matching color bandanas on their wrist". Ouch! Another wry observation (of many) on your part.
So Brian won the election. Yawn. He and Lili are now simply scene fillers...
tofie and Steve, I also thought Tano's quiet, gentle observation that David deserves to be happy one of the highlights of the night.
Speaking of anvils, "David gets a call from Mr. Kent about the olive tree land and they make an appointment to meet the following day". Hmmm. So who do you think the new owner is? Graciela or Juan??? Speculation only.
Cynthia, this was great. Thank you!
Diana
The screen shots were wonderful and "Sonia with Lilian in her room and Lilian is admiring herself in a mirror (like she is the fairest on of all!)" was my hands down favorite line of many.
Thank you for translating Lil asks, “What kind of witchcraft did you bring to me?” Marta says it’s for her bile and for her anger” which has just made my day. Marta continues to irk Lilian and I for one, couldn’t be happier!
"
Well this is why we are going to take things slowly and quietly". Oh David. And you certainly have lived up to that assertion. Except for molasses, I cannot think of anything that moves slower than you. :)
So many anvils are swaying in the breeze: “Don’t say that! Everything will be just fine because Juan knows what he is doing!” Juan tells Mark that it’s best that they get Miguel “out of the way” and "he (Miguel) still feels the same about her and one of these days they will be together were but a few.
I really want to like Fernanda but "It turns into a shouting match between Fernanda being very disrespectful to David" is making it near impossible.
Luciana obviously cares for Miguel and misses and cherished their friendship. tofie, I was impressed with the bracelet until I read "...1 point deducted for giving David a leather bracelet when she and Miguel had matching color bandanas on their wrist". Ouch! Another wry observation (of many) on your part.
So Brian won the election. Yawn. He and Lili are now simply scene fillers...
tofie and Steve, I also thought Tano's quiet, gentle observation that David deserves to be happy one of the highlights of the night.
Speaking of anvils, "David gets a call from Mr. Kent about the olive tree land and they make an appointment to meet the following day". Hmmm. So who do you think the new owner is? Graciela or Juan??? Speculation only.
Cynthia, this was great. Thank you!
Diana
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: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:02:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:02:00 AM EST
Cynthia forgive me for not mentioning you by name above. Thanks
There's a different dynamic as I watch the couples. Tano and Fernanda so different than Tano and Susan. Susan with Cesar much different than Susan and Mark or Tano. Miguel and Erika different than Miguel and Luciana. Luciana covers the same ground with David already covered with Miguel and looks bored. In fact she uncovered more of Miguel, does she not have any imagination?
I would think if David rocked her boat and loved him we'd see it already. Her favorite makeout spot is the cellar, the same spot she spent the bulk of two nights with Miguel. Otherwise they walk the vineyard hugging, kissing and talking about future vineyard plans but she did the same 24/7 with Miguel in front of David. I know they are childhood buddies and familiarity born of that relationship but Luciana always looks uncomfortable around David.
Is this by design or is the actress intimidated or repulsed by GS or has more chemistry with Raúl Coronado and unable to cover wanting to jump him? I think Irina is supposed to make me believe Luciana is uncomfortable when Miguel confidently states she'll be his one day but it comes off as only embarrassment, knowing she will.
There's a different dynamic as I watch the couples. Tano and Fernanda so different than Tano and Susan. Susan with Cesar much different than Susan and Mark or Tano. Miguel and Erika different than Miguel and Luciana. Luciana covers the same ground with David already covered with Miguel and looks bored. In fact she uncovered more of Miguel, does she not have any imagination?
I would think if David rocked her boat and loved him we'd see it already. Her favorite makeout spot is the cellar, the same spot she spent the bulk of two nights with Miguel. Otherwise they walk the vineyard hugging, kissing and talking about future vineyard plans but she did the same 24/7 with Miguel in front of David. I know they are childhood buddies and familiarity born of that relationship but Luciana always looks uncomfortable around David.
Is this by design or is the actress intimidated or repulsed by GS or has more chemistry with Raúl Coronado and unable to cover wanting to jump him? I think Irina is supposed to make me believe Luciana is uncomfortable when Miguel confidently states she'll be his one day but it comes off as only embarrassment, knowing she will.
Thanks, Cynthia. Great title and recap. I too loved Lilian is admiring herself in a mirror (like she is the fairest one of all!) - Ha!
Erica lied that Juan started the fight and Miguel went along with the lie to the police officer by omission. At first I was surprised Erica lied, but I have to admit I'd do the same to stop my righteous novio from getting locked up for hitting scum.
David, really? You're going to slow down because your daughter, who's about to head off to college, doesn't like it?
Fingers crossed that Gut never shows up for Lilian. Now that he's elected, he doesn't need her (if he ever did). Doesn't make him a nice guy worthy of Marta, but it would serve Lilian right to be left high and dry.
Erica lied that Juan started the fight and Miguel went along with the lie to the police officer by omission. At first I was surprised Erica lied, but I have to admit I'd do the same to stop my righteous novio from getting locked up for hitting scum.
David, really? You're going to slow down because your daughter, who's about to head off to college, doesn't like it?
Fingers crossed that Gut never shows up for Lilian. Now that he's elected, he doesn't need her (if he ever did). Doesn't make him a nice guy worthy of Marta, but it would serve Lilian right to be left high and dry.
Miguel and Erika are foolish to lie to a detective while attempting to denounce a liar and prove innocence. This should come back and bite them.
Cynthia, a superb write up. Thank you so much. You're a funny girl.
After Tofie, Steve and Niecie, I have nothing, well ,maybe one thing.
I kept thinking to Smuguel: OK, so you got your ass handed to you kid, GOOD, you have been asking for it the whole show. Now for Pete's sake go wash your frigging face.. Hmmm NoJuan was pretty impressive for a wimp.
Testosterone 1
Brain 0
At birth Martyra must have been dropped on her head, to voluntarily bring the witch tea.
After Tofie, Steve and Niecie, I have nothing, well ,maybe one thing.
I kept thinking to Smuguel: OK, so you got your ass handed to you kid, GOOD, you have been asking for it the whole show. Now for Pete's sake go wash your frigging face.. Hmmm NoJuan was pretty impressive for a wimp.
Testosterone 1
Brain 0
At birth Martyra must have been dropped on her head, to voluntarily bring the witch tea.
Niecie: "righteous novio" - good one!
I doubt Brian will have the stomach to stay with Lili for too much longer. As you pointed out, she's served her useful purpose. There's no need for him to continue to be subjected to her prejudices and demeaning behavior. Not only toward others (Marta) but to him as well. I like the actor and look forward to seeing him in other roles in the future. But Brian? Adios. Good riddance.
Diana
I doubt Brian will have the stomach to stay with Lili for too much longer. As you pointed out, she's served her useful purpose. There's no need for him to continue to be subjected to her prejudices and demeaning behavior. Not only toward others (Marta) but to him as well. I like the actor and look forward to seeing him in other roles in the future. But Brian? Adios. Good riddance.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 8:48:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 8:48:00 AM EST
Thanks, Cynthia! On a phone... Awkward! Anywho, agree with figure that the actress seems uncomfortable with GAS, which is too bad. I don't like being taken out of my fantasy and forced to think about the actors because the interaction seems stilted. Boo!
Thought Bobby was gonna slip and say something about Tia... Darn it, he didn't!
Fer is silly, knowing she has Tank in the wings she shoulda heard Daddy out!
Gracias, Cynthia!
Thought Bobby was gonna slip and say something about Tia... Darn it, he didn't!
Fer is silly, knowing she has Tank in the wings she shoulda heard Daddy out!
Gracias, Cynthia!
Thank you, Cynthia, for bringing it once again ! Excellent review of all the crazy.
Kirby, Hubba had a reaction similar to yours. He never watches my telenovelas, but he happened to wander into the room during that scene of battered Miguel sitting at the table with Erica after the big fight.
Hubba: "Did that guy run into a wall?
Me: " No, a guy who he should have been easily able to beat up punched him in the face, apparently broke his nose,and knocked him down."
Hubba, still staring at the TV : " Why doesn't he wipe the blood off his face? "
Me: "Yeah..he should take off his tee-shirt and use it to wipe that bloood off his face."
Hubba, wandering away: "What???"....
Lilian seems to be enjoying the wine more and more so when she gazes into that mirror, mirror on the wall, she is seeing her reflection through a wine haze . Right now, she has it all...Gut , all the free wine she can guzzle, and Marta to torment on an hourly basis .
Evidently, Gut just used Lilian to get votes. He is just a social climber which involved climbing on the wicked Queen.
I guess Fer is a spoiled, petulant teen. She is of the age to leave the nest to start her life, but she still wants Daddy to stay in the nest with Bobby, Tia, and Abuela..forever . She only cares about her happiness not anyone else's. She desires Tano, but Daddy should not have desires.
Kirby, Hubba had a reaction similar to yours. He never watches my telenovelas, but he happened to wander into the room during that scene of battered Miguel sitting at the table with Erica after the big fight.
Hubba: "Did that guy run into a wall?
Me: " No, a guy who he should have been easily able to beat up punched him in the face, apparently broke his nose,and knocked him down."
Hubba, still staring at the TV : " Why doesn't he wipe the blood off his face? "
Me: "Yeah..he should take off his tee-shirt and use it to wipe that bloood off his face."
Hubba, wandering away: "What???"....
Lilian seems to be enjoying the wine more and more so when she gazes into that mirror, mirror on the wall, she is seeing her reflection through a wine haze . Right now, she has it all...Gut , all the free wine she can guzzle, and Marta to torment on an hourly basis .
Evidently, Gut just used Lilian to get votes. He is just a social climber which involved climbing on the wicked Queen.
I guess Fer is a spoiled, petulant teen. She is of the age to leave the nest to start her life, but she still wants Daddy to stay in the nest with Bobby, Tia, and Abuela..forever . She only cares about her happiness not anyone else's. She desires Tano, but Daddy should not have desires.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:37:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:37:00 AM EST
So...what's in that box? Is it big enough to hold..hmm..a cellphone? Does Juan have Lisa's cellphone? If not, what miraculous item is in that box ?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 11:00:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 11:00:00 AM EST
Yup ! I was laughing out loud when Miggy was on his ass in the birdbath. This whole show he would blow up like one of those puffer fish anytime anyJuan came within 20 feet of Luci and act like whoever was a breath away from a pounding. Then the 'sits on his ass all day' lips lawyer beats him like a rented mule. Ha Ha hee haw.
Now David has to grow that other one and sit his entitled little Brat down and give her a much overdue lesson in life. There are a number to choose from, for her first lesson, including:
Life is not always fair
This is not Burger King, you don't get it your way.
It is not all about you
And Tano is not shooting blanks
Get to work David.
Secret box plot device? ? ?
Now David has to grow that other one and sit his entitled little Brat down and give her a much overdue lesson in life. There are a number to choose from, for her first lesson, including:
Life is not always fair
This is not Burger King, you don't get it your way.
It is not all about you
And Tano is not shooting blanks
Get to work David.
Secret box plot device? ? ?
Great work, Cynthia.
Erika didn't lie in the absolute sense; Juan's attack was verbal and intended as a defamation of character. Miguel should have just called him a liar and idiot, but this isn't a British miniseries.
I can't see what Brian does from here on about Lillian. May he get a case of ED if he gets naked with her again.
Also wondering about the box. I don't recall anyone finding Lisa's cell phone, but that doesn't discount the possibility that the writers left their options open on this. I'm sure Juan would love any opportunity to have any proof that DisGracie killed Lisa to hang over her head. However, it would probably be a retcon if there was any proof on that cell.
FerBrat continues to live up to her nick. Her current attitude that a stepmother would steal all of David's love is incredibly childish. Is she still reading Grimm's Fairy Tales? Also, the idea that love is something that can be materially quantified is insane (although, sadly, not unusual.
Erika didn't lie in the absolute sense; Juan's attack was verbal and intended as a defamation of character. Miguel should have just called him a liar and idiot, but this isn't a British miniseries.
I can't see what Brian does from here on about Lillian. May he get a case of ED if he gets naked with her again.
Also wondering about the box. I don't recall anyone finding Lisa's cell phone, but that doesn't discount the possibility that the writers left their options open on this. I'm sure Juan would love any opportunity to have any proof that DisGracie killed Lisa to hang over her head. However, it would probably be a retcon if there was any proof on that cell.
FerBrat continues to live up to her nick. Her current attitude that a stepmother would steal all of David's love is incredibly childish. Is she still reading Grimm's Fairy Tales? Also, the idea that love is something that can be materially quantified is insane (although, sadly, not unusual.
Oh wow it would hold a phone Susanlynn. If he has it why wouldn't Juan get money out of Graciela for the olive land instead of making a deal with Mark?
Thanks for the recap, Cynthia. And the screencaps - is Fer seriously giving her father a "talk to the hand"? No more wine for you, young lady!
Now that Gut is sheriff, how long till he dumps Lil? She'd better drink her Boldo. She's gonna need it.
Could the box have Perla's old phone? I bet there's some good evidence on there.
Now that Gut is sheriff, how long till he dumps Lil? She'd better drink her Boldo. She's gonna need it.
Could the box have Perla's old phone? I bet there's some good evidence on there.
Miguel's gonna be fine. He has three girls falling all over themselves to protect him.
After what David did to badass Mark it was a good thing Luciana would hold Miguel back when he went all maori warrior.
After what David did to badass Mark it was a good thing Luciana would hold Miguel back when he went all maori warrior.
AFAIK, Skid is still using Perla's phone in cases where it could be traced by Law Enforcement to cover himself, and we saw him call SooSun on it earlier.
Right, well I know Mark DID have Perla's phone. I just thought maybe Juan could have snuck it away from him.
OT:: Waaay OT, on the "Little Giants" kids talent show now on before Vino, they (Giselle) is constantly shouting You Ess Ayyy (USA). I assume it has some political angle, given the way things are lately, and seeing the underlying theme in Vino, but what are they trying to accomplish?
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From the sound of it, Juan's Mystery Box most likely has to contain something that will let him get one up on David...but I honestly have no clue what that would be at this point. The only obvious we-haven't-mentioned-this-in-a-while things on the show are Dead Lisa's cellphone and the original receipts for the acid purchase, unless something slipped by and I missed it--which I won't rule out--and neither of those would appear to help him with David.
Gutierrez would probably earn a little karma back if he did bounce Lilian like a check now that he's the sheriff of Sonoma, but lose it right away because he was still an accessory to Lil's endless mocking of Marta the Sainted (though Marta apparently is almost all cried out and now just gently mocking back in turn, which is a weird improvement in--ahem--affairs).
As for Fernanda going full brat (now that she's 18, though, is she still a brat or does she begin to become a bitch?)--if in a somewhat understandable way--and freaking out thanks to Graciela over the possibility of gaining a stepmonster? I'm honestly okay with that, mainly because in this case David actually stood up to her when she was definitely not being fair at all and Tano continued to be the angel on her shoulder about it. It's still baby steps, but hey.
Gutierrez would probably earn a little karma back if he did bounce Lilian like a check now that he's the sheriff of Sonoma, but lose it right away because he was still an accessory to Lil's endless mocking of Marta the Sainted (though Marta apparently is almost all cried out and now just gently mocking back in turn, which is a weird improvement in--ahem--affairs).
As for Fernanda going full brat (now that she's 18, though, is she still a brat or does she begin to become a bitch?)--if in a somewhat understandable way--and freaking out thanks to Graciela over the possibility of gaining a stepmonster? I'm honestly okay with that, mainly because in this case David actually stood up to her when she was definitely not being fair at all and Tano continued to be the angel on her shoulder about it. It's still baby steps, but hey.
What bothered me about that is that she has brainwashed Bobby. I hope that will do a U-turn in the next couple of episodes.
It at least looked like Bobby was coming around when David declared that he'd never bring someone bad into his children's lives (and since he did say earlier that he'd be okay with Dad dating someone "like Luciana" I'll give him that inch), but it definitely got drowned out by Fernanda's brat attack.
David could have changed the whole dynamic of the Smackdown with his kid and Brat by just saying, "OK if you have to know, it is Lucianna."
A. He would have INSTANTLY had Bobby on board,
B It would immediately neutralize all the DidGrace poison FerBrat was regurgitating concerning an unknown, possibly horrible StepMom. Deep down FerBrat can find little fault with Luci and she know it. It would probably be a relief to her in that when Bitch A and B start in with their sh** she could call them out on it and tell them that is not the Luci she has come to know. She is not 12 anymore.
A. He would have INSTANTLY had Bobby on board,
B It would immediately neutralize all the DidGrace poison FerBrat was regurgitating concerning an unknown, possibly horrible StepMom. Deep down FerBrat can find little fault with Luci and she know it. It would probably be a relief to her in that when Bitch A and B start in with their sh** she could call them out on it and tell them that is not the Luci she has come to know. She is not 12 anymore.
Kirby, you are half right. Bobby would be alright with Luciana, no question. However, FerBrat would still object. She is still too influenced by DisGracie and Lillian, who pull the class distinction card (although Lillian's takes away any of her cred about this). And FerBrat herself is a major hypocrite in this as well. She is mayor de edad, but only in the chronological sense. Emotionally she is about 12.
There is no way David can serve this up without trouble from FerBrat and the two evil influences in her life.
There is no way David can serve this up without trouble from FerBrat and the two evil influences in her life.
I don't know why he didn't tell them it was Luciana right away. Giving them little niblets of info rather than the whole story only encourages speculation and worry.
My company used to have a CEO that did that. He'd tell us "a big organizational change will be announced next month" and leave us to fret and worry for the next seven weeks (it didn't happen "next month," but the month after, and it was kind of a dud). I learned a good lesson from him: Don't do that to people.
My company used to have a CEO that did that. He'd tell us "a big organizational change will be announced next month" and leave us to fret and worry for the next seven weeks (it didn't happen "next month," but the month after, and it was kind of a dud). I learned a good lesson from him: Don't do that to people.
Fer might not take well to hearing that it's Luciana, but I think she'll deal with it better than she's dealing with the imaginary phantom stepmonster that's haunting her thoughts now. It's much easier for Disgrace to demonize an unknown than to demonize a person Fernanda has already met (and is keeping her Tano secret).
Agree, I was screaming at David to tell them it was Luciana. Sure Fernanda would go crazy but the relationship has just begun, will be worse the longer Luciana and David fool her and we're not talking marriage yet. Fernanda has to learn how to deal with adult situations. I think it also a good thing to have Graceila and Lilian know. It's David's life and if they can't accept accept it they can leave.
So..Juan was able to sucker punch Miguel (never underestimate your opponent, Miguel) , and Dave punched the stuffing out of Marked. Maybe they were on their college boxing team. The four guys seem to be in roughly the same weight class and about the same height. Marked is definitely the smaller, weaker, dirtier, and dumber of the four. Would it be an even fight between Dave and Juan? If Gut and Juan got in a fight, could Gut take Juan? I am going to say ..yes.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:38:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:38:00 PM EST
I am really surprised that Juan was able to punch Miguel. I guess Mig's mouth is faster than his fists.
Have we seen Gut fight? I know I haven't, but maybe it happened in an ep that I missed. I can easily imagine him defeating Juan and/or Mark. I also imagine that Dave could flatten all three of them.
Have we seen Gut fight? I know I haven't, but maybe it happened in an ep that I missed. I can easily imagine him defeating Juan and/or Mark. I also imagine that Dave could flatten all three of them.
Julie..so..you are putting your money on Dave, the quiet giant, over Gut #shoulders.
I think that Miguel underestimated Juan, and Juan was pretty fast and fierce. He bulled forward into Miguel, and Miguel looked surprised. I still think that he had some boxing lessons . Juan and Miguel look pretty evenly matched in size and strength. I am glad Erica styed out of it because the person who tries to break up a fight between two big guys is usually the person who gets hurt.
I think that Miguel underestimated Juan, and Juan was pretty fast and fierce. He bulled forward into Miguel, and Miguel looked surprised. I still think that he had some boxing lessons . Juan and Miguel look pretty evenly matched in size and strength. I am glad Erica styed out of it because the person who tries to break up a fight between two big guys is usually the person who gets hurt.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:05:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:05:00 PM EST
Dave is the galan, so he has to win all the fights, even though Gut probably has professional training and more recent experience!
I think Dave had three vest changes last night. Was that supposed to show time passing?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:16:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:16:00 PM EST
I think Gut is a bit bigger than Dave. We have seen him in the gym pumping iron. Dave has great definition and zero fat, but I think Gut has 30 pounds on him. All we have actually seen Dave do,( and his handling of SkidMark was impressive, but not resume' worthy), is get pushed around by a houseful of chicks and some kids.
Much as I dislike Gut, he looks like a handful. A big handful
I say the pecking order would be Gut, Dave, NoJuan, Miguel, Ramon, Tano, Luci, SkidMark, Leon, Bobby
Much as I dislike Gut, he looks like a handful. A big handful
I say the pecking order would be Gut, Dave, NoJuan, Miguel, Ramon, Tano, Luci, SkidMark, Leon, Bobby
In-vest. Haha! Very punny!
They say that in order to build rapport with someone, you should mimic some of their mannerisms. (And hope they don't interpret this as mockery.) Perhaps Disgrace should start wearing vests. Poor Dave won't know what hit him.
They say that in order to build rapport with someone, you should mimic some of their mannerisms. (And hope they don't interpret this as mockery.) Perhaps Disgrace should start wearing vests. Poor Dave won't know what hit him.
He probably would not mind her wearing vests, but when she is caught gnaw-kissing Luci she is out-a-there.
I can see Disgrace wearing vests without blouses underneath. Erica had a very interesting vest like top on last night. She was ..em..adjusting it just as Miguel cane into the office. Lately, all I look at is Dave's daily vest selection. I am getting a little obsessed with them.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 6:43:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 6:43:00 PM EST
Luci and Disgrace...??...I can only see them in a cat fight...which Luci would win.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:18:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:18:00 PM EST
DisGracw is evil, but Luci is young and what looks like in shape and Fiery. DG would not last to the first bell.
If it furthers her purpose I can see DisGrace wearing a vest and 8 inch red CFMs.
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WOW we get restless waiting for the next episode don't we? :-)
kj
If it furthers her purpose I can see DisGrace wearing a vest and 8 inch red CFMs.
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WOW we get restless waiting for the next episode don't we? :-)
kj
I guess that there is no episode tonight, right? Premio Lo Nuestro 2017
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:40:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:40:00 PM EST
Ms Cynthia, lovely recap.
Fer's a little sniveling brat. She has no right abjecting to her dad having a
Life apart from her. She'll be happy and he'll be miserable because she's
Not wanting a stepmom. And shes going to college anyway, she won't be there
Being a braty nuance. She needs to grow up and stop being so incredibly
Braty. Bobby's more grown up than she is
Miguel needs to stop fighting for Lucy
She's not interested. I think deep down he knows this. It's kind of annoyance listening to him always telling her "I'll fight for you,we'll
Be together when I have my very own vineyard of amooooor". I see why erica
Is so annoyed with him, Luciana Luciana Luciana, Luciana on the brain.
Stop it already.
Still don't like the D(o)g in red lipstick. I want to see her loose it and get exposed.
Lillian.....whatever.
Marta...needs a new wardrobe. Those big clunky shoes and those grannydresses. NO. She looks younger than lil. Ok enough, bedtime.
Thanks Ms Cynthia
Fer's a little sniveling brat. She has no right abjecting to her dad having a
Life apart from her. She'll be happy and he'll be miserable because she's
Not wanting a stepmom. And shes going to college anyway, she won't be there
Being a braty nuance. She needs to grow up and stop being so incredibly
Braty. Bobby's more grown up than she is
Miguel needs to stop fighting for Lucy
She's not interested. I think deep down he knows this. It's kind of annoyance listening to him always telling her "I'll fight for you,we'll
Be together when I have my very own vineyard of amooooor". I see why erica
Is so annoyed with him, Luciana Luciana Luciana, Luciana on the brain.
Stop it already.
Still don't like the D(o)g in red lipstick. I want to see her loose it and get exposed.
Lillian.....whatever.
Marta...needs a new wardrobe. Those big clunky shoes and those grannydresses. NO. She looks younger than lil. Ok enough, bedtime.
Thanks Ms Cynthia
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:43:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:43:00 PM EST
UA: The ONLY way FerBrat would accept Luciana is when the truth about her precious Tia Graciela whacking Lisa is revealed!
Maybe Smuguel's charge card receipt for the succinic acid is in the box. Fake of course.
I do wonder how SkidMark and ReMark are planning on ridding themselves of Smuguel.
I do wonder how SkidMark and ReMark are planning on ridding themselves of Smuguel.
Yo ! Miggy !
Huh?
Hey yeah, I heard Luci ran off to Spain with D A V I D. Hurry, they are boarding in ten minutes.
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Huh?
Hey yeah, I heard Luci ran off to Spain with D A V I D. Hurry, they are boarding in ten minutes.
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