Thursday, August 17, 2017
La Doble Vida de Estela Carrillo (LDVDEC) #71 (Part 1) 8.17.17: All in the Family
Chavalin meets with an associate in the park and advises him to stop falsifying documents or he will get in trouble. His associate explains that he doesn’t know what else to do and then chides Chavalin, as he’s there to ask him for a favor. Chavalin nods and the associate tells him that he met with a guy that morning who asked for various documents and warned him to have them ready by the afternoon or he would suffer the consequences of El Dorado. Chavalin is sure that it was Danilo and the associate reveals that the man also gave him an address to deliver the documents to. Chavalin asks him for it, ASAP.
Labels: Estela
Did being El D bring her out of her shell? In her flashbacks her clothes and make-up were completely different...much more conservative.
Laura continues to be the strong-willed, hot headed martyr-wannabe. I did not like the fact that she took it upon herself to confront Estela...no regard for the safety of her unborn child or Paloma. Yeah, she took Luisa, but Luisa seems to have lost some of her toughness.
PLUS the fact that she's a narcissist to begin with, and here is a guy with the same DNA as her. Outside of some exotic, heavy-duty, fictitious genetic engineering, that's as close as she can get to having an opposite-sex clone of herself.
I guess that is real Luuuurveeee. :-)
I never, ever expected what we learned tonight. Is this the first time such a boundary has been crossed? The only thing that did cross my mind was wondering if Pedro was lying. But as Mercy admitted her lost child was a girl, it certainly seems as though Estela is the one.
I can't fathom how Ryan will deal with this. My heart goes out to Mercy as well.
Understanding the big reveal but little of the dialog, I am really looking forward to the recap and comments. Rgv Chick, your comment revealed crucial details, particularly "Just about everything she said was a contradiction including the fact that she could not love Ryan the way Laura could love him", which made me shiver. Thank you.
Looking forward to checking in tomorrow.
Sleep well everyone.
Diana
I assume Joe was wrong about Asdrubal being Ryan's brother or were he and Estela siblings also? I was not able to follow that.
And Joe is just Joe, who shops at Goodwill rather than Macy's for Luuurve?
Sabrago is not smart enough to have one of his IT guys wrestle the tablet away from Morgagme (who he already took her phone) and see what she has been doing? GONG !
I will not EVER watch another piece of bullshit Anti-ME propaganda by Rosie O'Donnell O'Campo. Note to RO: You need to be smarter than your victim to brainwash him. You missed the mark on me by a Loooong shot dunce.
Why would they show Luisa specifically looking at Jimmy's tattoo if she wasn't going to do anything about it? That massacre he provoked shouldn't have occurred, or in the least, should have been minimized. So Steve B, more for your body count: Jimmy Benson and several people at the Festival. What is Rosy O trying to do...wasn't it enough that there was a massacre at the beginning of the TN???
And where was Luisa when Estela grabbed Laura...she never showed up when Estela had Laura at gunpoint. It had to be Danilow to save Laura once again.
Why would Horacio give the real address of where he "lives" to someone who is into illegal stuff? He's been a sharp dude all along and to make a mistake like that is out of character.
"Estela runs away as soon as she hears the gunshot (like the rat she is)" was my favorite line of many sprinkled throughout your outstanding recap Alfredo.
You captured all the raw emotion and the terribly grave details astutely and sensitively.
In the flashbacks, Estela seemed much younger, happier and in love. Monstrous is too kind a word to describe Pedro. Still, how could Estela have continued with Ryan once she knew the truth? Sick, twisted, perverted and heart breaking.
I can't imagine how Ryan will come to terms once he learns the truth. And Mercy...how will she comprehend all this?
"I assume Joe was wrong about Asdrubal being Ryan's brother or were he and Estela siblings also?" I'm glad you asked Kirby. I don't know either...
Danilo saves the day. Loathsome, yes. Savior? Somewhat. He has saved Laura and Paloma several times now. I hope that is taken into account when he meets his maker.
"Ryan admits that he always suspected the truth". My intuition says that Ryan only recently suspected the truth. Estela clearly had him captivated until 5 minutes ago...
Rgv Chick, Luisa continues to leave me with a churning sensation in my stomach. As you noted, she clearly saw Jimmy's tattoo. Did it not occur to her that something foul was afoot?? And yes, Luisa stuck to Blake like fly paper. Laura? Not so much. I do not like Luisa and I certainly don't trust her.
Julie your "Outside of some exotic, heavy-duty, fictitious genetic engineering, that's as close as she can get to having an opposite-sex clone of herself" might be the desperately sought after answer for one of the most troublesome questions...
I didn't think I'd care if Mercy and Joe broke up - but I do. Mercy seemd well, almost fragile, a word I never thought I'd use to describe her.
I wish I hadn't seen the previews. There were spoilers and one scene in particular had me shaking my head.
I'll say no more for now except thank you Alfredo, for yet another comprehensive, excellent recap.
Diana
Kirby: I'm looking forward to seeing Season 2.
RVG Chick: WOW! I really do NOT know what to say.
Except for the identity of the real El D. Laura figured that out. Of course, so did we. So, yet again, I think something is "too obvious" to be true, and yet again it turns out that nothing is "too obvious" for a TN. As mysteries go, Blue's Clues was more suspenseful!
Even in Hotel de los Secretos, which was supposed to be a mystery, we had a pretty good idea who the bad guy was because they all but told us. (Not to mention that it played into a well-known cliche about mystery stories.)
I, like Kirby, will not watch season 2 if it's going to be a bunch more "USA is full of discrimination and criminals, so go there anyway because in the end you may survive" messages. I found the exaggeration of what Mexicans go through when they come to the USA deplorable and an embarrassment to those Hispanics who have been here for generations...working hard and leading successful lives without encountering any type of violence and criminal activity. If season 2 is anything like this one, I hope it gets boycotted.
The Necklace Paths
Necklace 1: Mercy -> Pedro C -> Ryan -> Mercy -> Estela
Necklace 2: Mercy -> Baby Estela -> Asdrubal -> Genesis -> Joe -> Rosario -> Mercy
Estela may reason with herself that no one will be better for Ryan than her but the fact of the matter is she knew the truth and still tried to get in bed with Ryan. If she would've helped him from afar and then reappear and try to be his friend then I'm okay but she kissed him plenty of times. Eckkkk!
One can argue that, yes, she didn't know before she fell in love and yes, it was acceptable before for lineage purposes and monetary, but that's not practiced here or in Mexico any more so double eckkk!
RGV and Julie, the Foundation did plummet into darkness after the shooting. When Laura was kidnapped by Blake and she spoke to Emily, Emily revealed that the gangs had taken over again so that couldn't have been well for them. The problem is that the actual reason for the massacre was covered up so what is left, organized crime wars during a regional music concert. What ever happened to the truth?
Everything after Estela showed up was a disappointment. They have managed to fix some thing, i.e. Ryan, but the damage (and logical thinking) were already in the dumps by then.
Diana, the previews for tonight were definitely spoilerific. Univision sure says too much or too little, never just enough to get people excited.
Kirby, Sagrado should've taken all commuinication devices from Morgana. That was too dumb for words as were Horacio's actions. Funny enough, this is Ocampo's last tn as executive producer as she's moved on to a higher position in Televisa. Her associate producer, Eduardo MEza, will take care of Season 2, if it ever comes to frutition.
Speaking of Season 2, if it's about Estela, is it a prequel, in which case, triple Eckkk at watching the incest in action...or a continuation? I don't care for Estela's life at all so I also pass.
Right now I am having a hard time envisioning a Season 2 of this TN. I straight up don't like Estela. Maybe they can come up with a new story for Laura, but then the "Estela Carrillo" title won't make much sense.
I thought I had read that this would be Ocampo's last TN, but I didn't realize she would still be with Televisa. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. I mean, there are producers that I like much, much less, and except for the lecturing and messaging I really like Ocampo and would be really happy if she stayed on as a producer and someone at Televisa would encourage her to dial back on the messaging.
I'd love for someone at Televisa to do something about that other trend (I don't know if Telemundo does it too) of giving away way too many clues in their TNs.
I don't like Estela either. She rubs me wrong, poor Sara Corrales did an excellent job, but Estela is neither interesting as a lead or anti-heroine or evildoer. She does the pity me routine as ED or as Estela and that is just annoying.
I think Meza will inherit her message mantle as his new novela, Madre a Toda Padre, seems to be geared toward "being a Mr. Mom is okay." Which is fine but they will likely beat that theme to a pulp when it's done.
So..they went there.
I am not a fan of Sara. Maybe if she would have dialed her performance back a bit..not subtle. Basta.
It might be too soon to do a postmortem on this TN or Sara's performance just yet, but seriously ITA with Alfredo that things took a nosedive when the real Estela showed up. I don't understand why unless there was some kind of last-minute decision to change the last few weeks' worth of story... because up to that point everything seemed to be thoughtfully paced and plotted.
Why would they show Luisa specifically looking at Jimmy's tattoo if she wasn't going to do anything about it?
Rgv Chick, ITA. Why had she bothered telling Laura earlier about the tattoo? Luisa is either as dumb as a box of rocks or she’s okay with armed terrorists killing innocent people.
She grew up without her blood family, and maybe felt as though a piece of herself was missing. Then she meets Ryan, and they're simpatico. He... *sniffle* completes her.
Julie, I was thinking similarly. I don’t want to get inside Estella’s head, but I can see after committing such a heinous taboo against morality and human nature that she’d feel damned and might as well have Ryan for life. Like in Greek mythology.
My intuition says that Ryan only recently suspected the truth. Estela clearly had him captivated until 5 minutes ago...
Diana - lol! The night Ryan got drunk, he was not pretending. He clearly was discombobulated by Estella's return. In my view, Laura giving him some space and his seeing Estella wasn't this special celestial being but a clingy, jealous, non-truthteller did the trick. After that first kiss, he never seemed into their kisses to me. Estella always had to do the initiating.
I will not EVER watch another piece of bullshit Anti-ME propaganda by Rosie O'Donnell O'Campo.
Kirby, it seems Latin viewers in the USA agree. Toward the end, the ratings weren’t good here like they were in Mexico.
Normally, I believe a person has a right to know the truth, but I’m fine if Laura decides to take this secret to the grave and leave Ryan in peace. Of course, if anything ever happens to Laura, here comes Estella to take advantage of Ryan... barf!
Lots of swiss cheese here.
Everybody’s wisely running for their lives, even Sagrado’s hitmen, but Estella thinks this is a peachy time to stay near and stick it to Laura? Okay.
So Mercy and Walter miss a baby girl and enemy Pedro turns up with a baby girl, and nobody suspects anything or runs a DNA test? Okay.
I've said it before, I never fell asleep on Doble Vida. Overall I liked the performances and the scenery was great.
Wasn't the novel Flowers in the Attic about kids being imprisoned in their crazy grandma's attic , and the brother and sister fell in love? #nootheroptionsforadate
Very sage advice. I can't imagine how devastated Ryan will be. He did nothing wrong but the guilt would be an unbearable burden...
I thought the finale tonight was going to be 2 hours. Comcast shows it is airing 9-10 ET only!
Diana
Diana, it's just one hour tonight. The finale is indeed two hours, but we saw the first half of it last night because Univision apparently refuses to do ANYTHING the way Televisa does.
Our patio is like a beautiful flower, watered, fed and nurtured by Alfredo, Julie, Adriana and Ms RGV. Without them it would have withered away and died, and we can't let that happen just because Looney Vision dumped a bunch of manure on it.
I loved what you said about the patio! This is a very special group and the recappers and commenters are a special group.
I'm glad you will come over to Ramon soon. Hopefully, others will follow. We've shared a special camraderie and it has been an honor to be a part of it.
Diana
Estela is some kinda twisted sister.
"Sister"being the operative word here.
She could care less how this is gonna
Rip Ryans heart.She just wants to hurt
Mercy. I don't want estela to die, she
Needs to know the truth,cuz her daddy pedro fed her a pack of lies. Mercy didn't give her up. That might be why Mercy had that stroke,she realized who
Hellstela really is. Her nasty ho of a
daughter. And that she had yucky sex
With her brother, Double yucky. That
Would bring on a stroke.
Why won't Ryan wear a bulletproof vest
Knowin the kind of people he hangs all around? I hope hes wearin one, or the
Bullet missed him.
And how is Morgana suppose get away from turttleboot guy to get the loot out of the turtleboots back at the hotel?She'll sing him tosleep and slip
Out quietly :)......and I own property on the moon and the patio agreed to move there Monday. Lol. The craziness
Continues.Now they've got this episode
On 1 hour, isn't it suppose to be 2?
Who does tonight? I really don't care much for a 2nd season. Enough of this
Insanity. Romantic comedy is just what the tn doctor ordered. Ok I gotta
Rest up before this incest infested
Episode.
Thank Alfredo, Adriana, Ms Chick, Julie (Juls). You guys should be professional writers, you tell these
Stories better than the script writers do. Thanks guys.
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