Wednesday, April 18, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 4/18/18 Chapter 32 Miercoles: Business as Usual


Chapter 32: Business as Usual

Previously on D.F. Law:
  • El Ciego's flunky took his leave after handing over the briefcase full of dinero. Carlos did not appear concerned that he was dealing with a crime boss of nuclear proportions.

  • Guillermo expressed concern to Ricardo, asking if they could get (as a condition of any ruling) that his daughter be required to go to therapy. Ricardo told him not to worry because if the judge ruled in favor of his ex-wife they would appeal the decision. The judge arrived and decreed that full custody of the minor Elisa Gonzales Fernandez was granted to her father.
    The ex-wife was both incredulous and offended.
    She stood up and approached the bench, demanding to know why this was being done to her and declaring she would not allow her daughter to live with her ex. The judge told her that her daughter had medical and psychological issues that needed immediate attention, as bulimia is serious and could turn into something worse. The woman said he was evil, but the judge – who must have dealt with worse nutcases than her – told her calmly that she could have supervised visits with her daughter every fifteen days. He then told Guillermo that he recommended he take his daughter to a psychologist and a pediatrician as soon as possible. Effective that day she was to live with him. Guillermo graciously thanked the judge, as did Ricardo, and the judge declared the session adjourned. After he left the courtroom Guillermo's ex (whose name I have obviously forgotten) threatened to take the daughter away from him. She accused her lawyer of incompetence and said she would get a new one. Finally she shouted “desgraciado” at Ricardo before leaving the courtroom. Both Ricardo and his client kept their cool. Guillermo seemed very realistic about the next steps as he thanked Ricardo and shook his hand.

  • Alan entered Carlos' office in response to a summons from him. Carlos showed him the briefcase full of money (US dollars) and told him that this was the solution to all their problems. Alan reminded him that he was dealing with very dangerous people and that this would have future implications. He wasn't on board with this. Carlos appeared to think that he could treat this client like any other, but Alan had very reasonable doubt. Carlos then took three stacks of bills out of the briefcase and tossed them onto the desk in Alan's direction, telling him to pay their bills so the firm can move forward.

  • Victoria stopped by Ricardo's office to ask his assistance on her retroactive child support case. She explained the situation and asked him to review her documents. That the father of her client acknowledged paternity would work in their favor and that he had never provided for his daughter all her life would be where they could get him.

  • Alan almost begged Carlo to think more about this and told him he could still return the money. Carlos refused. Alan told him that other clients would cut and run as soon as they found out abot this one and Carlos told him “That isn't your problem,” further saying that this client would bring in more money than the whole rest of them. Two more refrains from the previous discussion on this subject and Carlos told him he would deal with this exclusively. Alan gave up and put the money in his folder. He reminded Carlos what this could do to the reputation of the firm. Carlos was not concerned. Winning a case for a client like this would be positive because it would show everyone that he could always provide a good defense. [At this point he probably needs a giggle jacket and a padded room.]
  • Ricardo found no flaws in Victoria's petition. This case is a first of its kind for both of them. Alejandra entered, saying she wanted to talk about Senor Perez' case.
    Victoria looked at the two of them, then winked subtly at Ricardo as she got up saying she needed to get back to work. Ricardo told her it wasn't necessary. He then asked Alejandra what she needed.

  • Roberto visited Nora at the prison and advised her on how to behave in court. She was going to have to describe the events and she needed to be calm. She thanked him for his help and said that Alan had to pay for his mistake in her case.
  • Alejandra gave the update on the Perez case and Victoria said it was a good thing that they knew where the child was. Alejandra then said that she would accompany her client, which Ricardo thought was a good idea, and that they had hopes of finding him.
    There was an awkward vibe in the room as Alejandra took her leave. As soon as the door closed Victoria asked Ricardo what was up. He told her that he was giving Alejandra space to resolve The Carlos Issue, but Victoria could see that he was bothered by it.

  • That evening Carlos took a judge to dinner, Judge Marrufo. The judge who should have removed Alan from the Nora Ramos case. After requesting the wine list he commented to His Dishonor that after being locked up he decided that liberty was the only meaningful value in life. They obviously knew each other for some time and Marrufo asked after Alejandra. He said that this had also been difficult for her but he was sure everything would be alright. He was sure that once the official investigation was over he would be fully exonerated. Marrufo told him that he had never doubted his innocence.

  • Olivia's plea to other victims of The Rat With No Name was aired on television that night. Victoria watched it with her and gave her an Atta-Girl. The culprit's photo was shown as the reporter did her close and segued to the next story.

  • Marrufo and Carlos discussed Alan and Nora's case came up. Marrufo said that because of Alan's error he sentenced the girl to prison. Carlos told him he was too busy to take the case and could he do something about it. Marrufo said that he couldn't do anything. Carlos acknowledged that this situation was complicated but that in the future they could work together as they always did. [We need to remember this one for the future.] Marrufo nodded, saying he hoped so.

  • The following morning Ricardo told Leonardo that he had been having a hard time being separated from Alejandra over The Carlos Issue. He felt guilty for interfering in the relationship. Leonardo told him he always Does The Right Thing, even when it was contrary to his own interests.

  • Victoria stopped by Olivia's office with good news from Sonia: Thanks to her interview five other women called the department to report The Rat With No Name had victimized them. Olivia speculated that he could face fifty years over this. High-five!

  • Leticia called Elena to invite her to go hunting that night. Elena asked her if she could come over and they'd have wine because she didn't know whom she could leave the children with. [Her deliberate omission of Ricardo obviously means that she intends to maintaini the Package Deal strategy.] Leticia demurred, saying she was looking to hit a bar that was full of single men.
    Elena turned that down because she wanted to keep Ricardo away from Alejandra by taking advantage of intruding on any opportunity he takes to be with the children. Leticia reminded her that Ricardo was only interested in the children. As usual, Elena did not listen to her.

  • Alejandra delivered the divorce petition to Gustavo and he did not take it well. She prevented him from calling Isabel, telling him that she didn't want to hear from him. She had had doubts, but made the decision before testifying in court. He begged her to help him but she told him she could not do any more.
  • Elena – so sure of herself as usual – went on about how now that Carlos was out of jail that should take Alejandra out of competition for Ricardo. Leticia said that Ricardo did go to court alone, which pleased Elena, who asked her to continue to spy for her. Leticia promised to do so, then suggested again that they go out for drinks. Elena turned her down and they ended the call. She smirked.
  • Gustavo continued to insist that a divorce would not be good for his son. He wanted her to delay the divorce but she said that this would only result in Isabel feeling more deceived. She advised him that if he cared as much about her as he said he should sign the papers and be done with it. He started to beg again but Alejandra did what she should have done long ago with Carlos: She stopped him dead and told him she could do nothing more. She then left his office.

  • Good news sometimes travels quickly as Olivia went to Leonardo's office to tell him about the other victims. He was pleased and certain that the Rat would do very serious time. Olivia told him she would not have had the courage to do the interview without him. He insisted that she was a strong and capable woman but she insisted on thanking him for all his help. [Which shows that he sees her as a lioness on behalf of her clients, so why is she acting like a scared gazelle on her own behalf?]

  • Nora's appeal came up... before Judge Murrafo, who said that this was due to inadequate previous representation. Roberto rose and announced he would have his client testify again, He had her retell the story [which we see]. The driver stopped and pulled out a switchblade with his right hand. He quickly swung his right arm back to prevent her getting out, then got out of his seat to pin her down. She began screaming and he demanded she shut up as he covered her mouth. At some point he had managed to switch the knife to his left hand. She testified that she was desperate and all she wanted to do was to escape. She was sure he would kill her. As the rapist fumbled with his pants she had grabbed his left hand with both of hers and managed to get the knife away from him. She stabbed him twice in the gut.
    “I didn't want to kill him but I was deathly afraid. When I realized what I had done I fainted.”
    Roberto then said that his client had not acted in legitimate self-defense. She was traumatized and not in control of her actions, but it was not an impetuous homicide. She had acted out of fear. Finally, she had cooperated with the authorities. Murrafo then told Roberto to take his seat and the court would recess while he made his decision.

  • Carlos entered Alejandra's office – unannounced and without an appointment – on the pretext of requesting her help. He talked about “after my bad experience” he wanted to help vulnerable women who were victims of violence, etc.
    Possibly the woman he was accused of murdering was murdered by someone she knew, like most women who are victims of violence. He insisted that he needed her help.

  • Cinthia and Roberto tried to reassure Nora, who was curious as to why the prosecutor didn't question her. Roberto told her that there was no new evidence and he could not question her on evidence that was previously presented. She asked whether she had a chance, but Roberto didn't have time to answer. Judge Murrafo returned and walked dramatically to his desk. Everyone went back to his place as he took his seat. He then overdramatically announced that Nora Ramos acted in fear of her life, therefore he sentenced her to “unconditional freedom.” However, she was not to bring any legal action against her previous attorney, Alan Paez, as he had not acted with malice or prejudice. He then adjourned.
  • Carlos insisted that he needed Alejandra's help because of her specialty, which meant that she understood these women's needs better than he would. He knew that would get to her. He then told her he would be accepting pro bono cases, which did surprise her. She asked him why.

  • Nora asked why they couldn't do anything about Alan. Roberto said it was because the judge said so although he didn't know why and that this was very rare. The best thing for now would be for Nora to get her things, go home, and get on with life. Cinthia thanked him and he said he was grateful that justice was done. [After an injustice that should not have happened.]
  • Carlos got on a soapbox more suitable for most of her colleagues about people being in prison because of inadequate representation and that got her to agree to help him. He covered her hand with his, saying he knew he could count on her. She looked down at her hand in shock. He slipped his hand off and she went into Business Mode, saying she would need to look into these things. He went on about how he wanted to do this because of his own Second Chance, etc., and how he was afraid she didn't believe him. He told her to look him in the eye and believe that he was changed by his experience in the slammer. Wants to help people. One “Mi amor” and a kiss on the hand later (during which she struggled with a cringe) he was finally out the door. [By now she should be as tired as we are of his prison refrain.]

  • Alonso commended Leticia's win of Gustavo's case and asked him how things were. He admitted discomfort at the screening of the video in the courtroom, especially in front of Isabel. Leticia acknowledged that, but felt that this was what won the case and got Milena her sentence. Gustavo then told them that Isabel went through with the divorce. Thus, Leticia felt that Milena's sentence was justified after she presented evidence of her attempts at destroying Gustavo's family.

  • On his way to the elevator Carlos ran into Ricardo, saying it was always good to start the day seeing one's intended. Ricardo kept his cool despite this as Carlos said his firm would have a dinner party and he would invite all of Vega.
    “I don't know if you're seeing anyone, but you can invite whomever you want.” he said.
    “Let me know when you've set the date,” said Ricardo. “I will very much enjoy dining with Alejandra.” He looked for a reaction. “And with you.”
    He then headed to his office, leaving Carlos looking a bit put off despite his snake-eyes.
  • Gustavo went to see Isabel with no better result than before. She told him that her doubts had been about Luis, not because of any feeling she had about him. She told him absolutely that she didn't want to see or speak to him anymore. He was to handle visitation rights or other practical matters through Alejandra. She closed the door in his face.

  • Carlos told Alan he had talked with Judge Murrafo about the Ramos case. He then told him about how things were going to be in the future. He would review Alan's cases first, as he had previously done. Alan agreed. However, Carlos told him that El Ciego's case had no margin for error. Any mistake could cost them their lives.
  • Juan went back to the strip club. He greeted all the women who lined up to welcome guests and a waiter showed him to a table facing the bar. He told him they didn't serve non-alcoholic drinks, then Juan made a request they were willing to honor. Two women came over to his table in an effort at coming on to him, but his attention was at the dancers who were above the bar.
    A blonde in red and black took her place in front of the disco ball and Juan looked up. “That's her. That's her!”

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Comments:
Thanks Urban. I like the filmpicks.
Carlos tells Alan all these green backs are the solution to all their problems.I say they're the beginning
Of the end for them. Alan is finally
Saying something I can agree with 1
Or both of them will wind up dead.
Carlos is evil. Probably worst than Alan.That's a crooked judge,he likes
Carlos. Yeah he crooked.

I'm glad the good parents got the kids.The bad parents are really bad.
That poor little starving girl was
Packin on the clothes to look thick.
Some people are not equipped to be for Parenting. I like Nora's momma,
Happy for Nora too.

Gus should just sign the papers and
Be done. He screwed up and it cost him. Leticia said the sentence was justified cuz mel tried to destroy
His family,I thought it was extortio
n. I guess he's being punished cuz he had a hand in the destruction of
His family too.

Still don't like Elena.

Ale stop backsteppin, letting Carlos
Slobber on her hand again.

Good night yall!

 

"Two more refrains from the previous discussion on this subject and Carlos told him he would deal with this exclusively. Alan gave up and put the money in his folder."

I loved this sentence because of "refrains". Your connection with music influences the way you write and what you pick up on in an episode. Always enjoy your commentary on the musical background to key scenes as well.

Oh my, "His Dishonor". Yikes. And I must say that actor has a way of overemphasizing Every. Single. Word. But sure makes him easy to understand.

Your note on Leonardo seeing Olivia as a lioness, while she sees herself as a gazelle was interesting. She's capable of fighting for others (helping other victims was what gave her the courage to do the interview) but otherwise terribly vulnerable. At any rate, Leonardo's protective nature is certain to help him fall in love with the weepy-eyed lawyer.

Fabulous screen caps every one. And detailed write-up. Just great. Thanks for all your hard work UA.
 

Nina, I completely concur that Carlos' problems are only beginning. He thinks he knows what he's doing but actually has no idea what he's gotten himself into. If he gets El Ciego out of the slammer that will not be the end of it and he will have more problems than he ever imagined. If he continues to stalk Alejandra she will also be in danger. If and when she finds out about this -- and that shouldn't take long -- she should tell him to get out of her life altogether.

In fact, she should tell him that anyway. She doesn't seem to recognize that he is intruding on her at the office to keep an eye on her and to keep her apart from Ricardo. We're into that cliche part of the story where miscommunication and misunderstanding will keep them apart for XX episodes before somebody gets a clue.

The starving girl has been brainwashed. She needs to see reality. Fortunately the judge in that case is a smart dude who has her best interests in mind. I'm surprised that the mother didn't try to pull one of those "My husband was sexually abusing my daughter" things that are now often under the heading of Divorce Poison. That doesn't mean it won't come up later in this series.

Gustavo should just take his punishment and sign. None of this is easy, including realizing you've made the biggest mistake of your life. He will still see his son and he's not too old to start over. He is in the process of learning a very expensive lesson.
 

JudyB, thanks. Carlos sings the same song whenever he sees Alejandra and while it might be normal to want to let it all out, he's doing this as a strategy to play on her sense of guilt. He has the same disagreements with Alan because he didn't do himself the favor of getting him to leave the firm years ago. If he promised his aunt he would protect Alan from himself he didn't do any of them any favors.

I'm sure Judge Murrafo is here to stay and that there will be shady dealings between him and Carlos to come. In fact, I'm reasonably sure that Carlos will later try to take the credit for influencing him over Nora's appeal. However, it looks like Roberto has a healthy-enough ego to see that for what it is.

Names mean something. I don't think that this character's name is a co-incidence. Leonardo may look like a repressed CPA but his inner lion comes out when needed. He needs a lioness. Note how the close-ups of him and Olivia are handled. It may take a while but I think they will be a couple.
 

Urban, thank you for a masterfully crafted recap.
I especially loved “at this point he probably needs a giggle jacket and a padded room”. I don’t understand how the owner of a second best law firm in Mexico can think that getting in bed with a mobster can bring him good publicity. Also, how can he not understand that becoming a mafia lackey is going to completely take away his independence as a lawyer and as a person and no amount of money is worth it. He is going to constantly live in fear of making a mistake that could cost him his life.

Your screen grabs are fantastic; they perfectly capture the subtle and not so subtle expressions of each character so well. I loved how you managed to capture Carlos’ sly expressions, Juan’s wide eyed excitement and Alejandra’s barely contained exasperation.

Irene
 

I can’t stand Gustavo the hypocrite. I thought maybe he would be at least a little bit pained that his former flame, to whom he whispered sweet nothings during and after satisfactory adventures in bed for an entire year, was unjustly incarcerated for two years. But no, apparently he has no conscience whatsoever and with every passing episode he inches closer and closer to becoming a full blown villain. Good for Isabel for sticking to her guns and showing him the door, but I bet he will be back begging and sniveling in no time.

Now, even though I cheered a little bit for Olivia and our warrior princess Victoria (so far, the only likeable and relatable female character in this telenovela), I have to say that 50 years for a robbery is a bit extreme. Of course, the prosecution could pile on other charges (such as assault and false imprisonment) , but even if we assume that there is evidence to substantiate each charge in Olivia’s case, we have to take into consideration the fact that the other 5 women probably can’t prove anything. I bet Arturo already got rid of the things he stole from them and they can’t even prove a similarity of method, since Olivia told the exact way she was victimized on television. No prosecutor should have allowed her to reveal the details of the crime, since now Arturo’s defense lawyer can claim that the other women fabricated their stories based on Olivia’s story and their stories are similar not because Arturo assaulted all of them in the same way, but because they all heard it from Olivia and copied it. According to the law, every witness is heard separately so that they can’t influence each other’s testimonies and in our case it is like Olivia already testified and all of those watching the tv program were present and could be influenced.
All a defense lawyer has to do is point that out and say that these women didn’t come forward before because nothing happened and they only came forward now because Arturo broke up with them and they want revenge/ want to take advantage of the situation and get rich through a civil lawsuit / want the attention and exposure that such a trial would bring them etc… The lawyer doesn’t even have to make a lot of effort, since it is up to the prosecution to prove that these 5 women really were victimized by Arturo.
I suppose the women actually managed to untie themselves or not all of them were tied up (since it is unlikely every single one of the 5 people untying a victim would just let it slide) but even if the prosecution brings as witnesses people that will testify that they untied the victims, it would still be quite easy to undermine their testimonies (it was a consensual bondage/ why, after witnessing the crime, didn’t they go to police and why did they decide to testify now etc…).


Irene

 

I had no doubt that Ricardo would win the bulimia case and he was quite effective in the courtroom, but as I said about last episode, no judge would base his judgement on expert opinions provided by one party to the conflict, especially when the other party claims that the expert providing the opinion is a friend of that party. Of course, the judge should have appointed independent experts and rendered his decision only after reading their expert opinions. If someone has 5 minutes to kill reading a really boring exegesis of articles of Codigo Federal de Procedimientos civiles regarding expert opinions, it can be found in a comment under episode 31.

Irene

 

Now, to the worst most ridiculous part of this episode: Nora’s appeal, during which I was enveloped in fumes emanating from my poor beanie, which couldn’t handle the amount of bul- -hit that it had to handle with.

First of all, this appeal proved that the writers have no understanding whatsoever what an appeal is.

An appeal is a legal proceeding by which a case is brought before a higher court for review of the decision of a lower court. Appeals function both as a process for error correction as well as a process of clarifying and interpreting law. Nowhere in the world would an appeal be brought before the same judge that rendered the decision that is brought for review. The whole idea of an appeal is to give the parties, who consider a judge’s decision wrong, an opportunity to bring that decision before another judge/ judges so that they could rectify it.

To have the judge that rendered the wrong decision (which he doesn’t consider wrong, since he is the one that rendered it) critically appraise his own decision and rectify it is unconceivable and can never ever happen. It’s like going for a second opinion to the same doctor that gave you the first opinion, totally absurd.

Moreover, the entire line of defense that Roberto presented was ludicrous and laughable at the same time. Nora’s case is a classic case of self-defense, which very much exists in Mexico and of course doesn’t require presence of injuries to be able to claim it.

I don’t understand at all Roberto’s line of defense. Is it defense of temporary insanity or something else?
If it is stress, then there is no such defense.
If it is temporary insanity, then it is very hard to prove, much harder than self- defense, and Nora’s testimony in court actually completely and totally disproves this line of defense. It is obvious that Nora was not suffering from temporary insanity when she stabbed the taxi driver. She remembers the entire ordeal, explains why she stabbed the taxi driver- “I wanted to get out of there, to save myself. I was sure he was going to kill me. I didn’t want to kill him, but was dying from fear.” All the elements of self-defense are present in her testimony, and no hint of insanity.

I think the writers should have gone about it the other way around- make Alan claim insanity and then have Roberto prove that it was self-defense, which is the correct defense.

Finally, a criminal judge (and an appellate one at that) can’t render decisions regarding malpractice during a criminal appeal. It is a civil issue and should be dealt with by civil court.
Even assuming it was a criminal issue (which it is was not), it is a completely separate issue that warrants a separate trial and certainly cannot be decided during an appeal.

Irene

 

I also thought that the appeal was ludicrous. These writers need to do their homework, but I suspect that they were setting up a situation that Carlos will try to take advantage of in a future episode.

Not to mention that since telenovelas have traditionally delivered information and PSAs, people should know that self-defense is a legitimate defense in such situations. Or was this a swipe at the criminal justice system?

BTW, are VW bug taxicabs in D.F. modified to have only a single seat for the driver as in this series? If not and if the cab was privately owned this should have been a red flag There should have been a news story with a photo of the dead rapist and a plea to any past victims to come forward. This looks like it was his regular M.O. and that this rapist had a victim profile or why else would this have happened in broad daylight?

That Murrafo said they could not sue for malpractice was telling us that he is corrupt.

More later.
 

UA: The bitter lady in the Red Dress cracked me up.
 

I think the actress was Marta Julia, whom we have seen before in AQNMD.

Irene, I also think that if Olivia told too much there would be an issue involving proof. She should have only said how she met The Rat and that he abused her trust and stole from her. He seems to be attracted to things he can fence, so maybe if he stole laptops from other women the serial numbers will turn up. Not sure they will follow up on this one since the purpose of this story seems to be to bring Olivia together with Leonardo.

On another note...

Screen grabs aren't that difficult because I have a program called Paint in this computer that allows me to crop and save. When I switch to my newer computer -- which I will have to when it gets warmer -- I don't know what the solution will be because I don't have that program in that one.
 

Tracking with the title. "That Murrafo said they could not sue for malpractice was telling us that he is corrupt." ITA. Law over lunch or lunching on the law.
 

Thanks, Urban! I see many operatic subplots in the making...Olivia hooks up with Leo but is then rejected by his family for being "that dating-site delito girl"...Carlos starts seeing the ghost of Pati the bailarina...Ale is kidnapped by the cartel, and Ric and Carlos have to team up to save her...sooo many possibilities.

How was LUISA MILLER? I loved Beczala as the Count in the Rat Pack Rigoletto a few years ago.
 

If Gustavo had shown true contrition, taken responsibility for what he did to Isabel and left her alone to accept his consequences, she very well may have stayed with him.

I think the thirst to put Milena in jail for what HE did was the last straw for Isabel. While Milena is a co-conspirator and does deserve some jail time for sending Isabel the porn & uploading it to YouTube, why should Milena have to go to jail for years and years while Gustavo gets off scot free? I think Isabel was disgusted at how forcefully Gustavo went after Milena for what HE did.

By continously begging, pleading & bothering Isabel, Gustavo is showing to her that he doesn't care about her feelings. If Gustavo really loved Isabel he would sign the divorce papers and leave her alone.

As I've said before, I think Gustavo loves Isabel, but Gustavo loves Gustavo more. Milena, Isabel and now Alejandra know this. The only one who doesn't is Gustavo. Independent of wanting Isabel back, Gustavo needs to sit down and do the hard work on himself. He also needs to be honest with himself: Why does he want Isabel back in the first place. If he's honest with himself, he may realize that he loves the idea of Isabel and he loves Isabel herself but he doesn't want to be married to Isabel or anyone else because it's hard work.

I have no doubt if Milena had stayed in her role and not demanded a commitment from Gustavo he would still be sleeping with her today.

None of that is Isabel's concern. Her main priority now needs to be protecting herself and Luis from the drama & crazy that Gustavo brings. If Gustavo loved Isabel more than he loved himself, he would leave her alone so she can process and heal.

Gustavo does love Isabel, but he's in love with Gustavo. And until he gets it, he will never have peace with Isabel.
 

Before I dive in to the recap (thank you, Urban) and comments (so it may already be covered), BUT--when Sr. Gonzalez's daughter was labeled as suffering from bulimia, all I could think of was Nicole Briz in Amores Verdaderos and Adelina in Un Camino. They were bulimic. There's a clinical difference between bulimia and anorexia. I think this child was being starved, not given enough to eat. Bulimics overeat and then force themselves to throw up before the food can be digested. Either way, the result is the same, skinny to the extreme, sometimes leading to organ failure and death. Poor thing. Mrs. Ex-Gonzalez did not look underfed, but (IMHO) underdressed.

More later.
 

BlueLass, Luisa Miller was better than I thought it would have been. I had only once heard it in concert form with a pianist and Verdi is so much better with an orchestra. Beczala was excellent, as was the entire cast. I first saw him when he stepped in for Rolando Villazon in Lucia di Lammermoor a few years ago. He's still gorgeous. It was almost laughable that he is 10 years older than the bass who played his father.

Anon207, I agree with half of your comment. True contrition would be Gustavo signing the divorce papers and not bothering Isabel again; also that Isabel's priority is to protect her son. However, what Milena was punished for was not having sex with him but publishing the video without his knowledge or consent with the intent to ruin his life and destroy his family. Had she accepted that he no longer wanted to be in a relationship with her and gone away no immediate harm would have befallen his marriage or family. Anything that would have harmed either after that would have been entirely his responsibility. Even though this was a questionable handling of the case, Milena did this with malice aforethought. While we can all agree that Gustavo's biggest mistake was getting involved with that slut, I think the second biggest mistake was him allowing the sex video in the first place. Revenge porn is nothing new and if there are no laws in Mexico about this who in their right mind wants to be the test case?

Anita, the other thing about bulimia is that the stomach acid ultimately destroys the sufferers' teeth. Some have been bulimic long enough to actually vomit as a reflex action and therefore are unable to keep food down. That is what the judge must have been thinking of.
 

I did say Milena deserved some time for sending the revenge porn to Isabel and uploading it to YouTube. She did not, however, deserve years and years in prison because Gustavo wanted her to go away so he could take back up with Isabel. Milena didn't extort Gustavo. I think Isabel was disgusted at how enthusiastic Gustavo was to put Milena away ... yet isn't willing to face his own consequences.

While Milena deserves jail time for the revenge porn, she doesn't deserve time for extortion and the blame of the affair shouldn't be heaped on her, it should be heaped on Gustavo. Isabel, to her credit, is holding Gustavo 100% responsible for the affair.

The problem is Gustavo refuses to take responsibility for his actions. He doesn't want to pay because he played. Isabel has paid, Milena is paying but Gustavo doesn't think he should have to pay?

That self-centeredness is why Gustavo cheated on Isabel in the first place.
 

Thanks, Urban. Loved "His Dishonor." Like the way you snuck a legal term in here: Carlos appeared to think that he could treat this client like any other, but Alan had very reasonable doubt.

Yay, Ric the Brick did not stop the presses because Ale entered his office. Ale had no appointment, so why should he interrupt his meeting with Victoria to tend totally to Ale’s issue? You go, Brick. Ale is a good woman, but she's been treated like a little princess by her dad, mom, and Carlos. She looked so taken aback by Ric's cool. Of course, we know he'll likely crumble before the week is out.

Nora asked why they couldn't do anything about Alan. Roberto said it was because the judge said so although he didn't know why and that this was very rare.

Seems even the writers realized how ridiculous Nora's "appeal" trial was, so didn't even bother coming up with mumbo-jumbo for Roberto to spout. Still, I'm glad Nora's ordeal has ended.

The mother of the bulimic girl needs a psych. Too bad the judge couldn't order her to see one. The mother doesn't look too thin, but I'll bet she's as crazy about her own diet and appearance as she is about her daughter's. Those sky-high zapatos she was teetering on had to be killing her.

I'm guessing Carlos thinks that because he is so well educated and smart that there's no way an unwashed low-life narc can outdo him. I guess he never heard of El Chapo.
 

All Milena got was two years. That sounds fair for what she's done. When she's out she'll probably try to get revenge on Gustavo.

I think Gustavo is still learning his lesson. Maybe he'll eventually realize he needs to let Isabel go in order for her to decide if she really wants to come back.

Maybe Senor Gonzalez' daughter pretends not to eat high calorie foods but does, and that why she has bulimia? The doctor must have seen some proof that didn't indicate she has anorexia. Maybe the mother is actually in denial about that part- she taught her daughter not to eat those things, when in reality things go on behind her back.

Anon1146
 

We actually don't know what Ric's expert learned, so maybe the little girl stuffs herself, then purges, at school - where her mother can't control her. If course, all of her mother's rhetoric is already ingrained in her brain, so even though she may "get away" with cramming food into her mouth while away from her mom, the brainwashing immediately kicks in and so she has to get rid of it. Horrible way to live at such a young age.
 

BTW, they used the term "dolo" again in Nora's case -- in the legal sense it appears to mean "premeditation." There was much stress on "sin dolo" in the 2nd verdict -- although how you could possibly premeditate killing a total stranger with his own weapon...I don't know. I'll stop before Irene's beanie gets any hotter and burns her ears.

I guess in Milena's trial, it was a question of whether she posted the video in a moment of anger or whether she did it very deliberately. That may be why Leti insisted on bringing up all those tit-for-tat emails ("If you buy me this, I'll do that") -- to show a history of very calculating behavior.


 

Urban, the screen grabs will definitely be missed.

You are probably right and the purpose of Olivia's ordeal is to couple her with Leonardo, although any normal woman in Olivia's situation would probably take a very long time to even consider a possibility of romance after such an ordeal.

They also wanted it to play as a PSA on reporting assaults, but did not do it correctly, since women might deduce from it that time is not a factor when reporting an assault and they can just do it whenever they get the courage to do it and pronto, the assailant is prosecuted and convicted, when in reality, unfortunately, chances of successfully prosecuting an assault that went unreported for a long time are slim to none.

Anon207, I totally agree with you, Gustavo would have happily continued making sex tapes with Milena if she was less demanding. He is one of the worst protagonists I have ever seen in a telenovela.

Irene
 

Irene,"it's like going for a second opinion to the same doctor that gave you the first Opinion,totally obsurd."
ITA Irene,yeah,going to another doctor finding out it was gas instead of heartpain, in this case it was Allen & the judge funkin up the case.
And.... Nora's appeal during which I was enveloped with fumes emanating from my poor beanie, which couldn't handle the amount of bullsh*t it had to handle",Irene that had me laughing out loud girl.

Let's face y'all they are not going to get anything right as far as following
The law is concerned. After all this is just a show about love in the law
Offices of vega & associates, crooked
Lawyers and judges, scorned exes and
Other kinds of messes.
I'm lookin forward to seeing the mess
Carlos is about to make of his and ale
And Alan and ric's lives. And the big
Colossal guilt trips he continues to
Lay ale. Will she ever learn?
 

We don't know what was in the expert opinion presented by Rick, but, whatever it was, in real life it would have been totally contradicted by the defendant's expert opinion, the lawyers would have been fighting in court over whose expert is more qualified and the judge would have appointed a third, independent one, before rendering a decision.

I thought that what Rick managed to get from the girl during questioning fit a diagnosis of anorexia, not bulimia, but who knows, maybe this poor child is both anorexic and bulimic.

Such a sensitive trial, concerning a child and a delicate matter of medical and psychiatric diagnosis, should have absolutely been held behind closed doors with no one but the parties and their lawyers present in the courtroom. For some reason, this judge saw it pertinent to discuss a child's bulimia diagnosis in a courtroom full of people unrelated to the case.

Irene
 

Nina, you are totally right, this telenovela is about the lawyers, not the law. I tell myself all the time to stop analyzing and criticizing the law in this telenovela, but I just can't. Maybe I need to don a giggle jacket and join Carlos in his padded cell.

Irene
 

Back again. Fantastic, Urban. How you keep cranking these Pulitzer Prize-winning recaps is a thing to marvel.

Anon207: "While Milena is a co-conspirator and does deserve some jail time for sending Isabel the porn & uploading it to YouTube, why should Milena have to go to jail for years and years while Gustavo gets off scot free? I think Isabel was disgusted at how forcefully Gustavo went after Milena for what HE did." My thoughts, but coming from you better said. I wonder if our Bevy of Writers at Televisa are aware of the discrepancy in the "punishments." Losing Isabel is not at the same level as losing two years of your life, living in deprived (and depraved) circumstances where someone else is in total control of your daily life. I'm hoping (against hope), that somehow, this will be rectified in the future--or with Milena safely behind bars, we don't see her again and we are left with the sniveling Gustavo trying to win Isabel back for XX more episodes....

Irene--Thanks for your Continuing Education Course in THE Law, as it should be depicted.

How is it possible that for once I totally agreed with that schmuck Alan? But he did take the money to pay the bills--the schmuck.

 

Milena only got two years. That is hardly the rest of her life. Gustavo lost Isabel, which is worse.

Whether we will see Milena again is in question. Could she get out on parole?
 

Milena is a scumbag, but she did not plight her troth to Isabel, nor did she promise to love and protect. Gustavo did. And then he didn't. He betrayed his wife and by extension his son. Milena did a malicious, very malicious act but two years in a Mexican prison seems excessive (to me).

And yes, Gustavo lost a great deal...the love, trust and respect of his wife. But that was his decision when he willingly entered into a yearlong affair with another woman.


 

Thanks Urban. Love the screenshots,perfect as usual.

Gustavo really thinks of no one but himself. Milena got punished for something he's equally responsible for and after that all he wants is Isabel to take him back like nothing happened? What if she forgives him and he ends up messing around with another Milena? Will he expect her to forgive him the second time because she did the first?

Corre Isabel!
Corre Alejandra!
 

Gustavo participated equally in the making of the video(s) but not in the dissemination of them. That is what Milena is being punished for. The e-mails that Leticia entered as evidence support the idea of premeditation.

The exposure cost Gustavo his marriage. We have yet to see if it will cost him his career.

I don't think Isabel will take him back.
 

I think the two years is fair. Otherwise Milena wouldn't have stopped harassing Isabel with the videos, or ruining Gustavo's name. And she'll think before doing it again when she gets freed. What Gustavo did to Isabel wasn't on trial. It was Milena publishing those videos against his consent, and she was trying to force Isabel into dumping Gustavo faster. If Isabel had chosen to stay with Gustavo, she would never breathe freely. Milena was also practically blackmailing Gustavo into getting back to their scummy relationship or the videos would keep coming. I'm not sure if Gustavo would ever truly feel free again, though.

Anon1146
 

I did say two years, not the rest of her life. Still, as I think Irene pointed out earlier. wasn't this a civil suit? There would be a monetary penalty and perhaps court costs, but jail?

Best phrase of the night, "His Dishonor." Top drawer, Urban.
 

Gus skunked his life and he want to go
Back to a life with isabel, where Mel
Never existed. Mel is like a scar on
Their life, and it's a scar he put there. There is equal blame, and he wants Isabel to make it all better by
Takin him back. Like someone said he needs to own his screw ups, sign the papers and except his punishment: life
Without Isabel and joint custody of luis. Maybe somewhere down the line he
Will be invited back into her life but
Until then he need to put on his big boy drawers and grow up and stop being big Whinny sap.
 

Two years in a Mexican prison feels like a lifetime. Mexican prisons are tough to survive for seasoned criminals, let alone for someone like Milena.
And we have to remember that she is innocent of the crime of which she was convicted. At Gustavo's behest she was charged with extortion, however we know full well that she did not extort him. Violation of privacy ,the actual offense that she committed, is punished by a mere fine in PASL universe (and in real life, it is not even a criminal offense, but a tort). It is only because Gustavo wanted to see her in jail that she was imprisoned on a trumped up extortion charge.

I find it horrifying that a man would be callous enough not to feel an iota of remorse to see a woman with whom he had a torrid affair be imprisoned for two years for a crime she didn't commit.

Irene
 

I agree Irene, but it seems in line with past telenovelas where "bad women" received horrendous, grizzly punishments at story's end and the men got off relatively lightly. And if the men were killed, it was something instantaneous like a bullet to the head rather than hours, days etc of hideous torture. Some real sadism seems to run through these stories as a rule.
 

JudyB--I seem to recall a conversation on this topic many eons ago, that the men in tns get off a lot more lightly than the women. Women are burned, scarred, buried alive, lose limbs, eaten by wolves, ending up in padded cells etc., but I DO recall at least one instance where the villain went to prison--we see him going in and there were a bunch of guys standing around, salivating, waiting expectantly just for him. I wish I could remember which one it was.

Yep, ole snake-eyes, that's why Julian Gil makes such a fantastic villain.
 

Well if anyone can get her out of jail
It would be Carlos.Here comes trouble.
Sounds like you're saying that they had her convicted because he's a pal friend & Colleague so they helped him put her away on trumped up charges to placate Him. That's just wrong. She should be Punished but not unjustly. And hes like "I want my isabel back, boohoo". Jerk.
Different rules. Not fair.
 

I can see carlos and Melina together. Bed buddys in crime.
 

JudyB, I just remembered all the memorable deaths in telenovelas that I watched and I think you are right! Almost all of them are female villains. Kendra from Amores Verdaderos got mauled by a pack of foxes, Frida from Entre el Amor y el Odio died from Leprosy, the villain plaid by Sabine Moussier in Abismo de Pasion lost both legs and killed herself, Barbara Greco from MEPS immolated herself and the blind Elisabetta from Pasion was gang raped and abandoned in the desert. And yes, the men mostly died from a gunshot wound.

Irene

 

Anita, that was the villain played by Julian Gil in La que no podia amar. His name was Bruno, if i am not mistaken.

Irene
 

Well, the Senile Fairy was visiting today...I meant "grisly" not "grizzly". Yikes!

And Yes, Anita and Irene, the poor blind Elisabetta from Pasión. That scene haunted me for months. She had already suffered terribly at the hands of her sexually abusive husband (who plays Ricardo's sweet old padrino in this one!). To me it is unsettling to see the differences in punishments, seeming to indicate a cultural taste for inflicting extreme "castigos" on females.
 

JudyB, "the Senile Fairy was visiting today"-what a fantastic expression!

I also had a visit from the Senile Fairy when I didn't recognize that Ricardo's padrino Joel and that terrible villain were played (not plaid ... the Senile fairy visit me today too) by the same actor.

Irene

 

Anita, I share your consternation about finding oneself siding with Alan...but you know what they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
 

That dang Senile Fairy sure gets around!

I am dazzled, seriously, by how well this actor can morph into a cuddly old teddy bear because he was so unforgettably heinous in Pasión.
 

And he actually had one of the most memorable deaths in Pasion - kept loosing body parts and finally decapitated. He was so despicably vile that I cheered a little bit with every lost body part.

Irene
 

Yes Irene, a well deserved GRISLY death for our boy.

Anita, was it Sergio Goyri in Soy tu Dueña? He certainly committed some heinous crimes including raping that young girl and I seem to remember that he was sent off to prison. But again, memory is fuzzy.
 

Another villain that ended up in prison was played by Alejandro Avila in El Precio de Tu Amor. He was guilty of at least two rapes and one murder and suffered the loss of a lower leg in an accident in the finale fight with the hero (Eduardo Santamarina). One of the rape victims was the heroine (Eugenia Cauduro) whose father (Roberto Ballesteros) was in prison for a white collar crime. When the criminal was let into the cellblock he looked up and said "That's the SOB who raped my daughter" and the entire cellblock jumped the villain.

That having been said, toxic mothers deserve the worst punishments of all. They so mess with their children's heads that it would take years with a shrink to get over it.
 

JudyB--Sergio in StuD, I think he lost a leg somewhere along the way. I'll check the Gran Final. I'll go back and check LQNPA, while I'm at it.

Irene--I've mentioned it here before, but "Joel" was just as awful in Amor Bravio and lost a tongue, but was rehabilitated in Quiero Amarte as Cristian de la Fuente's dad (but suffered from a harridan of a wife).

Blue Lass--In this case the clock has only been right one time (so far). He's a nerdy Casper Milquetoast with a strong streak of envy--very dangerous.
 

StuD: Rosendo ends up in prison, minus a leg (from the cave explosion), which at the very end, he'd carved into the figure of a woman, presumably Valentina. There was no indication that he was going to become a prison rape victim. I'll keep looking.
 

LQNPA: "Yes, El Que No Podia Amar, a man who only used women in the pursuit of personal vengeance can now only avoid major beatings by prison inmates if he lets the twisted Tuerto (and possibly his posse?) become a jailhouse jockey, taking Bruno’s backside for a ride….. (Bwahahahahaha!)" Jardinera's Famous last words on how Bruno became LA Que No Podia Amar.

Thanks, JudyB for having me take this trip down my fading memory lane.
 

Sounds like somebody hates women
Or they think people enjoy seein Women destroyed.
 





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